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<p class="MsoPlainText">Sorry to be so late in responding to this. Deborah's message prompted me to reply.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">I don't think that people look at the information and assume that, as in your example, the edition statement appeared after the imprint. On the other hand, if the imprint had<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Library of Congress, Cataloging Distribution Service, Washington, D.C. 2011<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">That transposition (place of publication after name of publisher) in a DCRM2 (or RBMS?) record should be noted.
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">I know RDA deals with "elements" and not fields, but, as long as we are in MARC21, I think we should continue noting transpositions within fields, even for an RDA record.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">With serials, there is a special case when the title of a serial appears in full and in the form of an acronym or initialism, choose the full form as the title proper:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">245 Feminist studies : FS.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">246 Title page reads: FS : feminist studies<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">We don’t want to lose that information. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Jane<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Jane Gillis<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Rare Book Cataloger<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Beinecke Rare Book and Manuscript Library<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Yale University Library<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">jane.gillis@yale.edu<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">phone: 203-432-2633<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">fax: 203-432-4047<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">The Beinecke Library’s building is closed for renovation until September 2016. We have opened a temporary reading room in Sterling Memorial Library, but access to some collections may be limited during the renovation. For more information,
visit our renovation website. Please note: The Beinecke Library will close completely during the month of August 2016 as staff and collections are relocated to the building at 121 Wall Street in preparation for our reopening in September 2016.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] On Behalf Of Mascaro,Michelle J<br>
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 4:43 PM<br>
To: DCRM Revision Group List (dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu)<br>
Subject: [DCRM-L] DCRM Revision: Transposition Notes</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">The DCRM Revision Task Force is currently looking at the matter of transposition and the noting thereof. We have had some preliminary discussion within the task force and would like to expand the discussion to the rare materials cataloging
community at large.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">In DCRM, there are numerous guidelines concerning transposition (i.e., noting when an element’s position on the title page differs from ISBD order). In RDA (which is indifferent to the order of data elements) the concept of transposition
is almost entirely absent (and completely so for attributes concerning Manifestations) [1].<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">While the DCRM revision can certainly carry forward with the tradition of using notes to alert the user to transpositions, we have some questions about user interpretation of transposition notes (or the absence there of) that merit further
discussion. In the absence of transposition notes, do researchers presume the OPAC displays transcribed elements in the order that they are found on the source? This would assume that OPAC displays abide by conventions of ISBD presentation of data elements.
Many do, but others do not. (For example, OhioLINK displays imprint information (area 4) before edition information (area 2), see
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). Future systems may make more drastic changes in display order. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Alternatively, perhaps users are not associating the base order of elements on the piece with the order the elements are displayed on the OPAC screen but with the typical order that elements appear on a title page. For example, regardless
of what order the OPAC may display elements, the user assumes the edition statement appears before the imprint statement, but after the title, on the source, unless otherwise noted. This seems like a large assumption to make of all researchers, but possibly
a reasonable expectation of researchers, who are interested in the placement of information on the original title page (and who may not necessarily trust OPAC display orders).
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<p class="MsoPlainText">There is a sound principle behind the practice of transposition notes in DCRM, which aim to reflect the resource’s representation of itself (this, in turn, serves identification). But the question arises, does the current DCRM practice
of transposition notes fully succeed in conveying the order of the elements on the title page to the user? Is it based on assumptions of OPAC element display order (that are outside of our control), or users having an understanding of ISBD order? Is there
a better way to do this? (I am more and more liking the idea of developing systems that provide links to title page images.)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> [1] See the RDA FAQ: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.rda-2Djsc.org_archivedsite_rdafaq.html-239-2D5&d=AwIF-g&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=n8dDRUidMOlWzQ1Q9gPA3IBl5z2jmzivxtidHI4AB8M&m=mVKShs6nCneGvsBiMXxXHaHyuus_wcURe_mvb3L2dr4&s=IVy4kBUhd3UqHN1nqmqhjy2mvh0Em4iI-6PxAKc3uCg&e">
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<p class="MsoPlainText">9.5 If ISBD will no longer be mandatory, will RDA provide instructions for the order of descriptive cataloguing data elements?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">RDA identifies the data elements used for descriptive cataloguing and lists them in an order similar to that found in AACR2. RDA does not provide instructions on the order the elements are to be given in the record (this is governed
by encoding standard use); or the order in which they appear in a catalogue display. However, if a library, consortium, or metadata community decides to continue to use ISBD, it most certainly has the option to do so.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Michelle Mascaro<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Associate Professor of Bibliography<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Special Collections Cataloger and Coordinator, Cataloging Services University Libraries The University of Akron Akron, OH 44325-1712 Bierce Library Office: 330-972-2446 Archival Services Office: 330-972-6830
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