<div dir="ltr">Indeed! Very cool. Thanks for sharing.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Deborah J. Leslie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:DJLeslie@folger.edu" target="_blank">DJLeslie@folger.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nipps, Karen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 28 October 2015 12:25<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:rbrandt@library.berkeley.edu" target="_blank">rbrandt@library.berkeley.edu</a>; DCRM Users' Group</span></p><div><div class="h5"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Fore-edge decoration description<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Hi, Randal and All – I am excited to report that the dream of linked copy-specific images has become a reality at Harvard. We do this from our desks using inexpensive
scanners. Here are a few examples. Our clever IT staff also figured out how to embed thumbnails in a list display. Let me know if you would like to know more about the magic potion we concocted to make this a reality. Best, Karen<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7030a0"><a href="http://id.lib.harvard.edu/aleph/014289772/catalog" target="_blank"><span style="color:#7030a0;text-decoration:none">http://id.lib.harvard.edu/aleph/014289772/catalog</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#5f497a">Karen Nipps<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Randal S. BRANDT<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 26, 2015 12:57 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Fore-edge decoration description<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Many thanks to everyone who responded to this query. I've decided to keep things simple and go with "edges decorated with alternating red and green stripes." Maybe Deborah's dream of linked copy-specific images will someday be a reality...<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As for the color choice, I suspect it mainly had to do with the colors of the illustrations contained in the text. It is an herbal, with approximately 400 woodcuts, all hand colored. The Bancroft copy is very similar to this copy, if anyone
wants to feast their eyes on it: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__daten.digitale-2Dsammlungen.de_-7Edb_0008_bsb00082640_images_&d=CwMFaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=osltSoeCDQty5lmuoulgrFY35SLz-pJgoWLp6lezjgs&m=FSMSEPGTxKsN8N1hvXRd4GB3yZYiWbAEYBREnEjsx4Y&s=LFqyGTXQkMhPdx-w-maPCieR9M-07eLHedQ0Z5neKT0&e=" target="_blank">
http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0008/bsb00082640/images/</a> (note that this copy includes a lengthy manuscript index at the beginning; the text starts at image 39, the frontispiece is image 38 -- sadly wanting from Bancroft's copy...)<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Deborah J. Leslie <<a href="mailto:DJLeslie@folger.edu" target="_blank">DJLeslie@folger.edu</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#993366">Something that the BSC can do when it's finished all its other projects. (-;): turn its attention to protocols
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#31849b">Deborah J. Leslie | Folger Shakespeare Library |
<a href="mailto:djleslie@folger.edu" target="_blank">djleslie@folger.edu</a> | <a href="tel:202.675-0369" target="_blank">
202.675-0369</a> | 201 East Capitol St., SE, Washington, DC 20003 | www. <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__folger.edu&d=CwMFaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=osltSoeCDQty5lmuoulgrFY35SLz-pJgoWLp6lezjgs&m=FSMSEPGTxKsN8N1hvXRd4GB3yZYiWbAEYBREnEjsx4Y&s=8w59Ib2YoO4Zs5NexrSA_6epjsdav7lk_wogxkk_OpQ&e=" target="_blank">
folger.edu</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alex Kyrios<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 19 October 2015 09:36<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Fore-edge decoration description<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I had to do a bit of research here, but the modern Italian flag only seems to date back to 1797.
Portugal’s green and red flag is an even later creation (1911). We can’t definitively date the colors based on a Flickr photo, but they look older than that to me. The Welsh flag dates to Henry VII, which would be contemporaneous with the book’s publication,
but that seems a bit of a stretch. Of course, we may be looking too closely at this; maybe they just looked pretty or were the colors at hand!</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Randal S. BRANDT<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 15, 2015 8:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jane Stemp Wickenden<br>
<b>Cc:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Fore-edge decoration description</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Unfortunately, there are no provenance indications in the book itself. Italian ownership could be an explanation for the colors!<u></u><u></u></p>
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Was the book ever in Italian ownership, just as a matter of interest? (given the colours).<span style="color:#888888"><br>
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