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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dear Linde,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Of course we should put all local information on our own catalogs. But to put it all on master records, it seems we’d have to have software allowing us to specify
how much will be displayed for a given book. Let’s say I was doing research on Chennai (Madras), India. If a book was just a general history of South India, I could specify that I only want to see “universal” information related to the manifestation. If it
was a biography of some important citizen of Chennai, I might want to it to show me every local note from every library. That might work, but I’m sure patrons would often complain that there was too much junk on records. How do you find the balance between
too much information and too little? I think we need to recognize that catalogs are just a small part of the process of doing research. A researcher spends a lot more time looking through books and bibliographies than looking at catalog records.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Another point: that software might make life easier for researchers, but for the reasons Richard gave, it would make life a lot harder for catalogers. You would
have to wade through a lot of notes to find the few that were significant. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">$.02,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ted
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">PS Thanks to the person who came up with “$.02.” I love that. I hope you don’t mind me copying you.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Linde B.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 17, 2015 11:49 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Deletion of copy-specific fields/data from OCLC master?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#0C343D">Dear Ted,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#0C343D">Having gone through the dissertation process in comparative literature (medieval and Renaissance Spanish), and conducting ongoing and robust professional-level
academic research in book history (largely 15th through the 17th centuries), I not only create records for early materials when I have the chance, I make intensive use of them for that research.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#0C343D">I have not EVER said that we need to put "everything" in the record. But the presence of marginalia, and indications of provenance, particularly early
and/or contemporaneous provenance, are quite important to lots of different sorts of researchers.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#0C343D">In the bibliographic community, there is precious little faith in the surrogates most libraries create in any case, and the lack of faith is well-merited,
for precisely the short-cuts and omissions we're discussing. <br>
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DCRM, of course, improves things, but undermining what little efficacious information is in records is an insult as well as an injury to researchers, particularly those studying book history and reception.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#0C343D">Your estimation of the usefulness of doctorvaters is perhaps overstated -- particularly if one is working in a new area, rather than an already sanctified
and overworked one, in which one's advisor may well have trod all those avenues already and have in their capacious photographic memory all important details of every book they ever laid hands on.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#0C343D">We don't just identify manifestations -- that's my point: we also identify items. After all, that's really all we have in hand: an item. And items
remain tokens of manifestations only when they have NOT accumulated any past interventions, i.e. history.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#0C343D">L<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Ted P Gemberling <<a href="mailto:tgemberl@uab.edu" target="_blank">tgemberl@uab.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Linde,
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">When I was a history graduate student at Indiana University in the 90’s, I remember that IU was converting all their
cataloging records to online. One time I happened to chat with a lady who worked on the recon team and mentioned that almost all the books I needed to use were still only in the card catalog. She said, “Let me guess, you’re a history student, aren’t you?”
The point is that, unlike sociology, which in many ways studies the same subject, historians have to have access to all the old books. If someone publishes a new edition of a classic book, that’s not good enough for historians. You have to have access to the
old ones. Sociologists are studying the big generalizations about society, so they don’t have to verify where Shakespeare first published Macbeth, for example.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">One of the consequences is that historians spend time building bibliographies of old editions of works. If you are
a history graduate student, typically the professors in the field you specialize in know where the best collections are for that subject area. I never got to the dissertation stage, but I’m guessing if I had, my professors would’ve told me which libraries
to go to. I know that doesn’t preclude them missing some important copies, but after all, as a PhD student, you are given years to do research.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This comes back to the basic point that’s been raised before: can the “surrogates” (catalog records) be expected to
tell you everything about a book? As Thomas Mann liked to say, it’s still important to browse shelves. Digitization of books can’t replace that because it only gives you keyword access to what is in them. Print books are still important.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">You wrote: “</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0C343D">As catalogers we
<u>record</u> the evidence, we don't <u>interpret</u> it.” Well, you have to interpret it enough to know if it’s necessary for identifying the manifestation.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0C343D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0C343D">Ted Gemberling</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Linde B.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 16, 2015 1:12 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Deletion of copy-specific fields/data from OCLC master?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#0C343D">Mr. Gemberling writes:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#0C343D">I</span><span style="color:#0C343D"></span><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#0C343D"> think it’s really the
job of historians and bibliographers to study the lives of authors, not catalogers. Of course that information is valuable and should be on your library’s record for the book, but I wouldn’t put it on the master record. Historians have the means to track down
the libraries where authors’ presentation inscriptions are more likely to be.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#0C343D">I beg to differ with your analysis here. It is the job of catalogers to record the important features of the book-in-hand as
both a token and as a specific copy, in part because of what Mr. Noble asserted, i.e. information that may indicate that the item provides evidence of a different issue. And, in part because the widely distributed copies of a book (whether expression or manifestation)
accumulate history, the role of the CLEARLY IDENTIFIED LOCAL information in the COLLECTIVE catalog is precisely to make available an indication of what that history is.<br>
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As catalogers we <u>record</u> the evidence, we don't <u>interpret</u> it. That's the difference. (Which puts paid to FRBR in the library world, since it requires catalogers to make judgments that require considerable knowledge of the scholarly DOMAIN and
to interpret it rather than record it.)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#0C343D">Further, I think the assertion that "historians have the means to track down blah blah blah" is absurd -- that would require
communicating directly with EVERY LIBRARY HOLDING A COPY of the book -- what would take a cataloger 5 mins MAX to record will waste HOURS of the time of (largely beleaguered and underfunded) historians. I am reminded of both Cutter and Ranganathan's observation
about wasting readers' time.<br>
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<img border="0" width="513" height="152" id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D138C4.F9862A80"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#0C343D">and<br>
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<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_laws_of_library_science#Fourth_Law:_Save_the_time_of_the_reader" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_laws_of_library_science#Fourth_Law:_Save_the_time_of_the_reader</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#0C343D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#0C343D">Linde M. Brocato</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Ted P Gemberling <<a href="mailto:tgemberl@uab.edu" target="_blank">tgemberl@uab.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Jane,
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">think it’s really the job of historians and bibliographers to study the lives of authors, not catalogers. Of course that information is valuable and should be on your library’s
record for the book, but I wouldn’t put it on the master record. Historians have the means to track down the libraries where authors’ presentation inscriptions are more likely to be.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">For example, we have two books authored by Queen Victoria that have her presentation inscription
to her physician. Of course I put a note of that on our local record, but I wouldn’t put it on the master record unless it were necessary to catalog the book. In other words, if in the preface Queen Victoria had said, “my wonderful physician helped me a great
deal in writing this book” and never gave his name, then the presentation inscription would help identify someone who should be an added entry. But just the fact that he got a copy of it with a presentation inscription will not ordinarily help catalog the
book. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Just my two cents. Maybe I’m underestimating the value of local information. Certain kinds of books—especially
I’d think manuscripts—make notes like that absolutely essential. But I don’t think printed books are enlightened very often by inscriptions.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ted Gemberling</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">UAB Lister Hill Library</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jane Stemp Wickenden<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 15, 2015 5:31 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Deletion of copy-specific fields/data from OCLC master?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">I recall cataloguing an anonymous 16th-century book at (I think ) Balliol College, in the mid-90s, with the author's presentation inscription in the front (he was a Balliol man). Technically
a copy-specific feature, but of bibliographic significance, as no other copy recorded such an inscription.
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Apologies; I am evidently reaching my anecdotage. ;)<br>
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Jane<br>
(Oxford University Early Printed Books Project, in the dim and distant days).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On 15 December 2015 21:54:31 GMT+00:00, Ted P Gemberling <<a href="mailto:tgemberl@uab.edu" target="_blank">tgemberl@uab.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Yes, that’s my understanding of what the subfield 5 is for, when you have information that you’re not sure is only of local interest.
If your copy proves to you that the note is unnecessary, go ahead and delete it. But don’t delete all 500’s with subfield 5. As Richard says, they may contain important clues to some mysterious aspect of a book.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I recently cataloged a book with a record created by NLE (National Library of Scotland?). There were a number of local notes on
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<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Noble, Richard<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 15, 2015 3:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Deletion of copy-specific fields/data from OCLC master?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<i>all</i> $5 note fields you might lose one of my precious gems--that is, when it's a feature of Brown's copy (and almost certainly of some but not all other copies) that is the clue to variation within a manifestation (issue, roughly), I will usually tag
it $5 RPB. But perhaps I shouldn't do so, as long as the note explicitly states that the observation is based on the Brown University copy. I don't like such notes that leave one wondering "Where did
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">I'm too old now not to be bold, so I've taken to sweeping LC's local collection (710) and acquisition notes (561) out of master records.
If you want such information about LC's holdings, search their local catalog.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Randal S. BRANDT <<a href="mailto:rbrandt@library.berkeley.edu" target="_blank">rbrandt@library.berkeley.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I've also gotten bolder with age and now generally delete copy-specific information from OCLC master records. I do make an exception for $5 DLC, however. Not yet bold enough to
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<p align="right" style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#20124D;background:white">The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure
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<p align="right" style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#20124D;background:white">For conscience to work: either a very strong religious belief</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p align="right" style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#20124D;background:white">Or: pride, even arrogance.
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<p align="right" style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#20124D;background:white">If you say to yourself in such matters: who am I to judge?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p align="right" style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#20124D;background:white">Every sin is an attempt to fly from emptiness.
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<p align="right" style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#20124D;background:white">The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure
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<p align="right" style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#20124D;background:white">For conscience to work: either a very strong religious belief</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p align="right" style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:right"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#20124D;background:white">Every sin is an attempt to fly from emptiness.
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