<html><body><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Note that subfield $9 is reserved for local definition.  If you are proposing this as an addition to MARC, then you need to pick a different subfield.<br></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div style="padding-left: 30px;">John Attig<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div style="padding-left: 30px;">Penn State University<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr" data-marker="__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker="__HEADERS__"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #1010FF;margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Lapka, Francis" <francis.lapka@yale.edu><br><b>To: </b>"DCRM Users' Group" <dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, January 14, 2016 10:16:58 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [DCRM-L] subfields $3 and $5 to specify copies in MARC        bib        records<br></blockquote></div><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #1010FF;margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">



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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">I see the sense in that suggestion, too. Using a record control number would be the most explicit means possible to refer to a Holding entity (a copy). My concern
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">I suppose I imagined a subfield that isn’t too prescriptive about the form of identifier used. It could be the control number for the Holding, or it could be the full
 call number (and there are other possibilities), e.g.: </span></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">‡a Lindley, John, ‡d 1799-1865, ‡e former owner. ‡5 CtY-BA ‡9 BACRB G240 .H35 1589+</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">Mind you, I’m not entirely sure that such an addition/modification to our MARC vocabulary is necessary or will make our next transition easier, but I think it merits
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Deborah J. Leslie<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 13, 2016 11:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] subfields $3 and $5 to specify copies in MARC bib records</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">What about dropping the "Bibliographic" from ‡w Bibliographic record control number, and authorize for a larger number of fields?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#31849B">Deborah J. Leslie | Folger Shakespeare Library |
<a href="mailto:djleslie@folger.edu" target="_blank">djleslie@folger.edu</a> | 202.675-0369 | 201 East Capitol St., SE, Washington, DC 20003 | www. folger.edu</span></p>
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<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lapka, Francis<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 13 January 2016 10:04<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] subfields $3 and $5 to specify copies in MARC bib records</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">As we prepare for life After-MARC, I think it would be handy to have a clear means to associate copy-specific data in a bib record with the copy to which it applies, for example for data in fields
 655 and 7xx. I’m concerned that MARC doesn’t currently provide an adequate means.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">MARC gives us subfield $5 to record the institution to which a field applies. But as defined, this field cannot specify a copy. See:
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<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">MARC gives us subfield $3 to record “the part of the described materials to which the field applies.” I have seen subfield $3 used to specify an individual copy – where there is more than one copy
 described in a bib record – but this seems an imperfect match to the scope of subfield $3. The flawed suitability of subfield $3 is made most clear in the wording used to define its scope within the 563 field, for bindings: “Portion of the binding that is
 described in the field.”</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">This leaves me with little faith that subfield $3 can serve as a machine actionable means to match copy-specific data in a bib record with its related copy entity – for now, a Holdings record; someday,
 an Item entity – when subfield $3 may also be used to denote the portion of a manifestation to which data applies. I have doubts that it can effectively serve both functions.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">Should we explore a new subfield? Are there any left? Or modify $5 to include institution and copy identifier?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif">Francis Lapka  ·  Catalog Librarian</span></p>
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