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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">Wouldn't a 24mo also have watermarks on the fore-edges?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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20003 | www. folger.edu | </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#31849B">orcid.org/0000-0001-5848-5467
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Noble, Richard<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] DCRM-L Digest, Vol 119, Issue 15: Paris edition 32-mo?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">If the watermarks are telling you 12mo, go with that. They wanted a little book and used little pot paper, I'd guess.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">BROWN UNIVERSITY :: PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912 :: 401-863-1187</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><</span><a href="mailto:RICHARD_NOBLE@BROWN.EDU" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">Richard_Noble@Br</span></a><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><a href="http://own.edu" target="_blank">own.edu</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Schneider, Nina <<a href="mailto:nschneider@humnet.ucla.edu" target="_blank">nschneider@humnet.ucla.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Well, I’m not sure if I would consider it tightly trimmed. The margins are: 6mm [top], 13 mm [bottom],
8 mm [fore-edge], gutter too tight to tell.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Noble, Richard<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 20, 2016 10:22 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] DCRM-L Digest, Vol 119, Issue 15: Paris edition 32-mo?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">I've just now seen it listed in digitized c19 catalogs as 18mo, just as unlikely as 32mo. I'd have guessed 24mo, in a French (8/4) variation
of the imposition shown by Gaskell for 24 in 12s (the last of the imposition diagrams), which unfolds to a foolscap sheet; but the watermarks wouldn't be where you have them, which does sound like 12mo. I have seen duodecimos that small. Is yours very tightly
trimmed?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Schneider, Nina <<a href="mailto:nschneider@humnet.ucla.edu" target="_blank">nschneider@humnet.ucla.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">HI all,<br>
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Sorry I didn't respond sooner... the title is: Epitome controversiarum, per Scripturam sacram productam & expositam à sanctis Patribus; : ex methodis Augustinianis in artem hic priès concinnatis. Seu Epistomium ministrorum. / Authore & prelectore in scholis
regiis, Francisco Veron, sacra theologia doctore, ecclesiaste regis, & Scriptere à clero Gallicano deputato, in controuersiss. Parisiis, : Et apud viduam Ioannis Petit-Pas, viâ Iac. sub scuto Venetiarum, M.DC.XLIV. [1644]<br>
[24], 672 pages ; 11 cm<br>
OCLC # 934814722<br>
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Our copy measures 11 x 5.5 x 3.2 cm<o:p></o:p></p>
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From: <a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>] On Behalf Of Man, A.J. de (Anja)<br>
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 11:17 PM<br>
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Dear Nina,<br>
Could you give us the title, perhaps we have the same so that we can take a look ourselves.<br>
And even the BNF might make a mistake ...<br>
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Kind regards,<br>
Anja de Man<br>
Rare Books and Manuscripts cataloguer<br>
Utrecht University Library Netherlands<br>
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From: "Deborah J. Leslie" <<a href="mailto:DJLeslie@FOLGER.edu" target="_blank">DJLeslie@FOLGER.edu</a>><br>
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What is the book? What is the width?<br>
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Deborah J. Leslie | Folger Shakespeare Library | <a href="mailto:djleslie@folger.edu" target="_blank">
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From: <a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>] On Behalf Of Schneider, Nina<br>
Sent: Thursday, 14 January 2016 13:42<br>
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Subject: [DCRM-L] 32mo?<br>
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Hi all,<br>
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I have a 1644 publication, printed in Paris, measuring 11 cm, gathered in 8's and 4's with horizontal chain-lines and a watermark on the fore edge. Normally, I would call this a 12mo, but the only other record for this title is from a batch-load owned by the
BNF and they have it down as a 32mo. Bowers and Gaskell (and the internet) are not helping me right now. Could it really be a 32mo?<br>
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Thanks for any insight,<br>
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Nina<br>
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