<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Looks good to me .. of course. But it also <i>feels</i> good to write notes like this that I will understand long after I've done another few hundred books and can't quite remember all the details of this one--which is a pretty good test whether it will make sense to anyone else. It <i>could</i> be set up so as to treat each state as a variant of the other ("Who you callin' a variant, you varmint!"), but your version does the trick just fine.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><font face="'courier new', monospace">RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY</font><div><font face="'courier new', monospace">BROWN UNIVERSITY :: PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912 :: 401-863-1187</font></div><div><span style="font-family:'courier new',monospace"><</span><a href="mailto:RICHARD_NOBLE@BROWN.EDU" style="font-family:'courier new',monospace" target="_blank">Richard_Noble@Br</a><span style="font-family:'courier new',monospace"><a href="http://own.edu" target="_blank">own.edu</a></span><span style="font-family:'courier new',monospace">></span></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Barbara Tysinger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:btysingr@email.unc.edu" target="_blank">btysingr@email.unc.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Thanks, Richard!<br>
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Final version of note?<br>
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"This record represents 2 issues of this edition, distinguished by a
variation in the pagination of the preface. In the variant the
preface is set in a smaller typeface, printed on 6 (vi) pages. Not
evaluated for textual variation. Variant in the Sheldon Peck
Collection on the History of Orthodontics and Dental Medicine, at
the Health Sciences Library, University of North Carolina at Chapel
Hill. ǂ5 NcU-H"<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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Barbara</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br>
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<div>On 3/23/2016 9:50 AM, Noble, Richard
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">The only
thing you might add--only if you are allowed/allow yourself
the time to do it--is to remark whether there is any textual
variation. If I decided not to collate the texts, I might add,
in cataloger passive, "(not evaluated for textual variation)"
or something like that, but would pretty certainly cite my
institution as having the variant and add $5, which serves as
a sort of institutional cataloger signature.</div>
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monospace">RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER ::
JOHN HAY LIBRARY</font>
<div><font face="'courier new', monospace">BROWN UNIVERSITY
:: PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912 :: <a href="tel:401-863-1187" value="+14018631187" target="_blank">401-863-1187</a></font></div>
<div><span style="font-family:'courier new',monospace"><</span><a href="mailto:RICHARD_NOBLE@BROWN.EDU" style="font-family:'courier new',monospace" target="_blank">Richard_Noble@Br</a><span style="font-family:'courier new',monospace"><a href="http://own.edu" target="_blank">own.edu</a></span><span style="font-family:'courier new',monospace">></span></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 4:50 PM,
Shiner, Elaine P. <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eshiner@fas.harvard.edu" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:eshiner@fas.harvard.edu" target="_blank">eshiner@fas.harvard.edu</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Yes,
I agree with Deborah and Richard. I was thinking
more about what was allowed in OCLC.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Just
because you can doesn’t mean you should
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1f497d">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Elaine
Shiner,
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Rare
Book Cataloger</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Houghton
Library, Harvard University</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="mailto:eshiner@fas.harvard.edu" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue"></span></a><a href="mailto:eshiner@fas.harvard.edu" target="_blank">eshiner@fas.harvard.edu</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="tel:617-496-9190" value="+16174969190" target="_blank">617-496-9190</a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Deborah J. Leslie<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 22, 2016 4:02 PM</span></p>
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<div><br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Unrecognized
variant?</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d">Congratulations,
Barbara—isn't it satisfying to find new things
like that?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d">I
agree with Richard. What you've described are
variant states of an issue and should not be on
different records. If, say, there was a
statement on the title page about changes or
revisions, then you'd probably be dealing with
different issues, which would require a new
record according to DCRM(B).
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d">From
the DCRM(B) glossary:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d">*Issue.</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d">
A group of published copies which constitutes a
consciously planned publishing unit,
distinguishable from other groups of published
copies by one or more differences designed
expressly to identify the group as a discrete
unit.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#31849b">Deborah
J. Leslie, M.A., M.L.S. | Senior Cataloger,
Folger Shakespeare Library |
<a href="mailto:djleslie@folger.edu" target="_blank">djleslie@folger.edu</a> | <a href="tel:202.675-0369" value="+12026750369" target="_blank">202.675-0369</a>
| 201 East Capitol St., SE, Washington, DC 20003
| www. <a href="http://folger.edu" target="_blank">folger.edu</a>
| <a href="http://orcid.org/0000-0001-5848-5467" target="_blank">orcid.org/0000-0001-5848-5467</a>
</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>
[<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Noble, Richard<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 22 March 2016 15:34<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Unrecognized
variant?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">If
the difference is clearly only physical--the
same text crammed onto fewer pages--then
this could be regarded as a case of variant
states within a single issue
(manifestation). A 500 note giving the
details would be a useful addition to the
OCLC master record (including reference to
the copy that is your evidence for the
difference).</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">If
there is any sort of significant difference
in the text, then it might be described as a
different issue, as such justifying its own
dcrmb master record, though again some sort
of note would be required. No doubt the
holdings attached to the NLM master record
represent both variants, which cannot be
sorted out in any practicable way. I've
written a few notes beginning, say, "This
record represents 2 issues of this edition,
distinguished by ...". There's just no other
way to explain it.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS
CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>BROWN UNIVERSITY ::
PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912 :: <a href="tel:401-863-1187" value="+14018631187" target="_blank">401-863-1187</a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span><</span><a href="mailto:RICHARD_NOBLE@BROWN.EDU" target="_blank"><span>Richard_Noble@Br</span></a><span><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__own.edu&d=CwMGaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=z7NicJkNYFkVLEcQmeSRBA7uLawvKWXubuodzMMWnVw&m=Mbp-sUHVkuiRk-n_qzOw9absFOogmfsYWybMLH7eAsk&s=CjoS4dBXhGPv8oWrXJ-KGp0cIt8gIeqpldkh47slDuA&e=" target="_blank">own.edu</a>></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at
3:14 PM, Shiner, Elaine P. <<a href="mailto:eshiner@fas.harvard.edu" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:eshiner@fas.harvard.edu" target="_blank">eshiner@fas.harvard.edu</a>>
wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">According
to OCLC guidelines on When to Input a
New Record, a “ variation in preliminary
paging, post paging or separate paging”
(not sure what they mean by ‘separate
paging’) does not justify making a new
record. If you made a new record, and
the preliminary pagination was the only
difference, your record might merge with
that of the x, 440 p. issue.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">You
can make a new record, however, if you
use the rare book rules (dcrmb)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Elaine
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Elaine
Shiner,
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Rare
Book Cataloger</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Houghton
Library, Harvard University</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="mailto:eshiner@fas.harvard.edu" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:eshiner@fas.harvard.edu" target="_blank">eshiner@fas.harvard.edu</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="tel:617-496-9190" target="_blank">617-496-9190</a></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Barbara
Tysinger<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 22, 2016
2:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Revision Group List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L]
Unrecognized variant?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hello All,<br>
<br>
I think I may have an unrecognized variant
of <i>De la prothèse immédiate,
appliquée a la résection des
maxillaires</i> (1889) by Claude Martin.<br>
<br>
The records in OCLC all have the
pagination as x, 440 pages, but the copy I
have is vi, 440 pages, the Roman numerals
in both cases representing the preface.<br>
<br>
Compared to the digitized copy at The
Internet Archive ( <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__archive.org_stream_delaprothseimm00mart-23page_n9_mode_2up&d=CwMDaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=z7NicJkNYFkVLEcQmeSRBA7uLawvKWXubuodzMMWnVw&m=JwbtaCwq5TC_5X0YXjxD847PzYksFGnanWHZmF84wWI&s=2l7AwrFRybr2SBQ7IKfO9qzdYqUYfnkxMRNkNmEfINU&e=" target="_blank">
</a><a href="http://archive.org/stream/delaprothseimm00mart#page/n9/mode/2up" target="_blank">http://archive.org/stream/delaprothseimm00mart#page/n9/mode/2up</a> ),
the content of the preface in my copy is
the same, but is set in a smaller font,
taking less space. The title page,
colophon, and main text block appear to be
the same.
<br>
<br>
Is this a variation worthy of a new
record? Or should I use the existing NLM
record in OCLC, and just make a change in
the local catalog (with appropriate
notation, of course).<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
Barbara<br>
...................All opinions are
entirely my own....................<br>
<br>
Barbara R.
Tysinger
Phone: <a href="tel:%28919%29966-0949" target="_blank">
(919)966-0949</a><br>
Health Sciences
Library Fax:
<a href="tel:%28919%29966-1388" target="_blank">
(919)966-1388</a><br>
University of North Carolina at Chapel
Hill<br>
335 S. Columbia Street, CB# 7585<br>
Chapel Hill, NC 27599-7585<br>
e-mail: <a href="mailto:Barbara_Tysinger@unc.edu" target="_blank">Barbara_Tysinger@unc.edu</a><br>
<br>
......."Non pilus tam tenuis ut secari non
possit."-- St. Minutia......</p>
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