<div dir="ltr">The MARC Standards Office has informed me that kobt was indeed a typo, and has already corrected the source code list and the technical notice to read lobt. <div><br><div><a href="http://www.loc.gov/marc/relators/tn160406src.html" target="_blank" style="font-size:12.8px">http://www.loc.gov/marc/relators/tn160406src.html</a><br style="font-size:12.8px"><br style="font-size:12.8px"><a href="http://www.loc.gov/standards/sourcelist/genre-form.html" target="_blank" style="font-size:12.8px">http://www.loc.gov/standards/sourcelist/genre-form.html</a><br><div><br></div><div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">This means we will be able to use the code lobt in MARC records to indicate terms from the Language of Binding </span><span style="font-size:12.8px">thesaurus in 655_7 $2 lobt as we do with rbbin and the other controlled vocabularies.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Again, the code does not validate in OCLC right now, and probably won't until the next OCLC-MARC format update.</span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><u></u><u></u></p></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">Thanks for your patience with all of my emails about this.</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:12.8px">Matt</span><br></p></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Matthew C. Haugen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matthew.haugen@columbia.edu" target="_blank">matthew.haugen@columbia.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Thanks for the clarification, Manon. I did not see the email with "lobt." So hopefully the MARC office can correct the web page.<div><br></div><div>In any case, neither lobt nor kobt validate in OCLC right now, and probably won't until the next OCLC-MARC format update.<div><br></div><div>Also, I misspoke about the use of the source codes in my last message. I meant to say $2, not $7.</div></div><div><br></div><div>Matt</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Schneider, Nina <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nschneider@humnet.ucla.edu" target="_blank">nschneider@humnet.ucla.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Thanks for clarifying this, Matt. I was originally looking at the site on my phone, so didn't see the details.<br>
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Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Ligatus thesaurus<br>
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Hi Nina, I noticed those codes too. The new codes relating to the RBMS CVs seen in the MARC Technical Notice on April 7 are separate from the RBMS Genre/Form codes, which have not changed.<br>
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These new source codes are for standard identifiers, not for terms, and are specified for use in 024 $7, not in 655 $7.<br>
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Encoding this in an authority record for a term would allow for establishing equivalencies between other vocabularies, and other applications which would rely on identifiers rather than terms. I did not see any announcements or discussion about these codes, either.<br>
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I suspect their addition has something to do with the work to publication of the CVs as linked data? <a href="https://github.com/rbmsvocabs" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/rbmsvocabs</a><br>
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Perhaps someone else can elucidate.<br>
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Matt<br>
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</span><span>On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Schneider, Nina <<a href="mailto:nschneider@humnet.ucla.edu" target="_blank">nschneider@humnet.ucla.edu</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:nschneider@humnet.ucla.edu" target="_blank">nschneider@humnet.ucla.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
All,<br>
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I just had a look at this list and noticed the RBMS thesaurus/CV codes have also changed. Did I miss an announcement?<br>
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Nina<br>
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Nina M. Schneider<br>
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Rare Books Librarian<br>
William Andrews Clark Memorial Library<br>
2520 Cimarron Street<br>
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From: <a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>>] On Behalf Of Matthew C. Haugen<br>
<span>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 8:02 AM<br>
To: DCRM Users' Group<br>
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Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] FW: [Marketing Mail] Re: ["EXLIBRIS-L"] Ligatus thesaurus [Was "Untrimmed Edges"]<br>
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Richard, Thank you for the suggestion. I queried them just now, and will let the list know what I hear.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
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Matt<br>
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</span><span>On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Noble, Richard <<a href="mailto:richard_noble@brown.edu" target="_blank">richard_noble@brown.edu</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:richard_noble@brown.edu" target="_blank">richard_noble@brown.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
Matt-<br>
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Did you query the MARC Standards Office about "kobt"? It looks very much like a typo from whatever source that found its way into the two documents. If it is, then it should be corrected asap, before it finds its way into too many records.<br>
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Richard<br>
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RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY<br>
</span>BROWN UNIVERSITY :: PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912 :: <a href="tel:401-863-1187" value="+14018631187" target="_blank">401-863-1187</a><tel:<a href="tel:401-863-1187" value="+14018631187" target="_blank">401-863-1187</a>><br>
<Richard_Noble@Br<mailto:<a href="mailto:RICHARD_NOBLE@BROWN.EDU" target="_blank">RICHARD_NOBLE@BROWN.EDU</a>><a href="http://own.edu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">own.edu</a><<a href="http://own.edu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://own.edu</a>>><br>
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On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 6:05 PM, Matthew C. Haugen <<a href="mailto:matthew.haugen@columbia.edu" target="_blank">matthew.haugen@columbia.edu</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew.haugen@columbia.edu" target="_blank">matthew.haugen@columbia.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
All, Thanks for the feedback. I submitted a request for a new source code for the Language of Bindings Thesaurus to the MARC standards office on February 5. A new code was announced in the MARC Technical Notice on April 7, but it just came to my attention today:<br>
Genre/Form Code and Term Source Codes<br>
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</span>The following source code has been added to the Genre/Form Code and Term Source Codes<<a href="http://www.loc.gov/standards/sourcelist/genre-form.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.loc.gov/standards/sourcelist/genre-form.html</a>> list for usage in appropriate fields and elements.<br>
Additions<br>
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* kobt - Language of Bindings Thesaurus (London: University of Arts)<br>
<span>Sources:<br>
<a href="http://www.loc.gov/marc/relators/tn160406src.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.loc.gov/marc/relators/tn160406src.html</a><br>
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<a href="http://www.loc.gov/standards/sourcelist/genre-form.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.loc.gov/standards/sourcelist/genre-form.html</a><br>
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This enables the use of the thesaurus in 655_7 $2 kobt<br>
I would have expected lobt, but both LOC documents do show kobt.<br>
Matt<br>
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</span><span>On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Carpenter, Jane <<a href="mailto:jfcarpenter@library.ucla.edu" target="_blank">jfcarpenter@library.ucla.edu</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:jfcarpenter@library.ucla.edu" target="_blank">jfcarpenter@library.ucla.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
Nina, LOB = Language of Bindings (Ligatus)<br>
I believe it’s Jackie Shieh<br>
You’re right—Feb 15th is President’s Day! (I didn’t realize….) We’ll reschedule the CV meeting<br>
Thanks for pointing that out<br>
Jane<br>
</span>From: <a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>>] On Behalf Of Schneider, Nina<br>
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Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] FW: [Marketing Mail] Re: ["EXLIBRIS-L"] Ligatus thesaurus [Was "Untrimmed Edges"]<br>
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Sorry, Matt, for being dense. What’s LOB?<br>
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Also, I went to an ALA reporting meeting at UCLA yesterday and one person reported on a meeting they attended (PCC at Large, I believe) in which expansion of fields beyond $0 (such as $0 for authorities, $w for works and $4 for bibliographic relationships) help with linking. I believe it’s a pilot of the URI Task Group (I think Jackie Shay – George Washington University -- gave the presentation at Midwinter).<br>
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Nina<br>
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</span>From: <a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>] On Behalf Of Matthew C. Haugen<br>
<span>Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 10:05 AM<br>
To: Deborah J. Leslie<br>
Cc: DCRM Users' Group<br>
Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] FW: [Marketing Mail] Re: ["EXLIBRIS-L"] Ligatus thesaurus [Was "Untrimmed Edges"]<br>
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I am considering submitting a request for a new MARC genre/form code and term source code for the LOB database to enable use of the terms in 655 as with rbbin. Would others find this desirable? Has a request already been made, perhaps?<br>
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Thanks,<br>
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Matt<br>
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</span><span>On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Deborah J. Leslie <<a href="mailto:DJLeslie@folger.edu" target="_blank">DJLeslie@folger.edu</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:DJLeslie@folger.edu" target="_blank">DJLeslie@folger.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
For those who don't studiously read ExLibris-L. This thesaurus has been a long time in preparation: <a href="http://www.arts.ac.uk/research/ual-research-centres/ligatus/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.arts.ac.uk/research/ual-research-centres/ligatus/</a><br>
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From: Nicholas Pickwoad [mailto:<a href="mailto:npickwoad@paston.co.uk" target="_blank">npickwoad@paston.co.uk</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:npickwoad@paston.co.uk" target="_blank">npickwoad@paston.co.uk</a>>]<br>
<span>Sent: Friday, 08 May 2015 10:19<br>
</span>To: <a href="mailto:exlibris-l@list.indiana.edu" target="_blank">exlibris-l@list.indiana.edu</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:exlibris-l@list.indiana.edu" target="_blank">exlibris-l@list.indiana.edu</a>><br>
<span>Subject: [Marketing Mail] Re: ["EXLIBRIS-L"] Ligatus thesaurus [Was "Untrimmed Edges"]<br>
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Dear Leslie,<br>
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I have now at last got news. The thesaurus will be open to all in the week leading up to a conference we are putting on in London with CERL on 23 June (the poster is about to go out). The accompanying volume, Coming to Terms: guidelines for the description of historical bindings (120,000 words and about 500 illustrations) is now with the designer and will be available later in the summer.<br>
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All the best<br>
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Nicholas<br>
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Professor Nicholas Pickwoad<br>
Ligatus Research Centre<br>
CCW Graduate School, University of the Arts London<br>
16 John Islip Street<br>
London SW1P 4JU<br>
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</span>e-mail: <a href="mailto:npickwoad@paston.co.uk" target="_blank">npickwoad@paston.co.uk</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:npickwoad@paston.co.uk" target="_blank">npickwoad@paston.co.uk</a>><br>
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On 8 May 2015, at 15:12, "Deborah J. Leslie" <DJLeslie@FOLGER.edu<mailto:<a href="mailto:DJLeslie@FOLGER.edu" target="_blank">DJLeslie@FOLGER.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
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Nicholas,<br>
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Any word on when the Ligatus thesaurus will be available for general use?<br>
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