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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">By the way, these relationship designators can be used in authority records for works as well, so long as the relationship is to an entity that has been established
in the NACO authority file (i.e., we can’t [yet] link to entities in LCSH or other thesauri in NACO authority records, though that’s been proposed).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">010 no2016046378<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">040 WaU ǂb eng ǂe rda ǂc WaU<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">046 ǂk 1913 ǂ2 edtf<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">1001 Chagall, Marc, ǂd 1887-1985. ǂt Paris through the window<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">380 Painting ǂ2 lcsh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">380 Oil paintings (visual works) ǂ2 aat<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">381 Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum ǂ2 naf<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">4001 Chagall, Marc, ǂd 1887-1985. ǂt Paris par la fenêtre<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">5001 ǂi Artist: ǂa Chagall, Marc, ǂd 1887-1985 ǂw r<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">551 ǂi Depicted: ǂa Paris (France) ǂw r<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">010 no2016096137<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">040 UPB ǂb eng ǂe rda ǂc UPB<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">046 ǂk 1958 ǂ2 edtf<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">130 0Fräulein (Motion picture)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">380 Motion picture<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">380 Motion pictures ǂa Feature films ǂa Romance films ǂa War films ǂ2 lcgft<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">430 0Kvinde i Berlin (Motion picture)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">430 0Muchacha de Berlín (Motion picture)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">430 0Nainen Berliinissä (Motion picture)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">430 0Agapi ston polemo (Motion picture)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">5001 ǂi Film director: ǂa Koster, Henry, ǂd 1905-1988 ǂw r<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">5001 ǂi Screenwriter: ǂa Townsend, Leo, ǂd 1908-1987 ǂw r<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">5001 ǂi Motion picture adaptation of (work): ǂa McGovern, James, ǂd 1923-1989. ǂt Fräulein ǂw r<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">5001 ǂi Film producer: ǂa Reisch, Walter ǂw r<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">5102 ǂi Production company: ǂa Twentieth Century-Fox Film Corporation ǂw r<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">551 ǂi Setting: ǂa Berlin (Germany) ǂw r<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">040 UPB ǂb eng ǂe rda ǂc UPB<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">046 ǂk 1931 ǂ2 edtf<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">1001 Robertson, E. Arnot ǂq (Eileen Arnot), ǂd 1903-1961. ǂt Four frightened people<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">380 Novels ǂa Action and adventure fiction ǂ2 lcgft<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">551 ǂi Setting: ǂa Malaysia ǂw r<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Robert L. Maxwell<br>
Ancient Languages and Special Collections Librarian<br>
6728 Harold B. Lee Library<br>
Brigham Young University<br>
Provo, UT 84602<br>
(801)422-5568 <br>
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"We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine ourselves to the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow, 1842.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Matthew C. Haugen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 25, 2016 8:17 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Question about relator term #e depicted<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If I recall correctly, both "depicted" and "setting" relators were developed with the intent to parse out these types of relationships from the subject or "about" relationship. Examples in the MARC21 bibliographic format documentation for
various 6xx fields include examples of "depicted" with a range of entity types:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">60010$aMonroe, Marilyn,$d1926-1962,$edepicted.<br>
[Silkscreen of Marilyn Monroe]<br>
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60010$aClovio, Giulio,$d1498-1578,$edepicted.<br>
[Portrait of the miniaturist Giulio Clovio]<br>
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61010$aUnited States.$bSupreme Court,$edepicted.<br>
[Group photo of the justices of the Supreme Court.]<br>
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61010$aUnited States.$bArmy.$bCavalry, 7th.$bCompany E,$edepicted.<br>
[Picture of a Cavalry troop.]<br>
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61120$aDerby (Horse race)$xHistory$y20th century$jdepicted.<br>
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63000$aDomesday book,$edepicted.<br>
[Photo of the Domesday book.]<br>
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650#0$aSeabiscuit (Race horse),$edepicted.<br>
[Photograph of Seabiscuit, the race horse.]<br>
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650#0$aUnicorns,$edepicted.<br>
[Bayeux Tapestry, showing a unicorn.]<br>
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651#0$aNiagara Falls (N.Y. and Ont.),$edepicted.<o:p></o:p></p>
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651#0$aBonneville Salt Flats (Utah),$edepicted.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Matt<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Lapka, Francis <<a href="mailto:francis.lapka@yale.edu" target="_blank">francis.lapka@yale.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">Allison,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">I suppose there’s nothing to stop an agency from using the term in a narrow sense, e.g. paired only with
individual persons. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">But taking it as defined,
<i>depicted</i> can be used with any entity – which means just about anything goes. An entity can be a person, group of persons, and so much more (any
<i>thing</i>, real or fictional). Note also the MARC relator term <i>setting</i>:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Setting [stg]</span></b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> An entity in which the activity or plot of a work takes place, e.g. a geographic place, a time period,
a building, an event</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">There, examples of entities include “geographic place, a time period, a building, an event.” It seems normal
to me (and useful!) that <i>depicted</i> should also be paired with the same variety of entities.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">Francis</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Allison Rich<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 25, 2016 7:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Revision Group List <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] Question about relator term #e depicted</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif">Hi All:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif">I just worked with Ellen Cordes at the Lewis Walpole Library for a few days recently in order to learn how to catalogue</span>
<span style="font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif">graphic</span> materials <span style="font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif">
using DCRMG.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif">I had a fantastic time and Ellen is a wonderful teacher.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I started to put it into practice when I got back to my library and have run across a question which Ellen suggested I pose to the list:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>It involves the correct usage of the relator term #e depicted.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>The definition of the relator term reads:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>"<span class="m6064708043853091569authorized">Depicted</span><span class="m6064708043853091569relator-code"> [dpc]</span> -- An entity depicted or portrayed in a work, particularly in a work of art"<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Does the word "entity" have any weight here. Can I use the term with a group of persons (e.g. Jesuits or Quakers) or can it only apply to a single person, whether real of fictional?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Thanks for your advice and input.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Allison<o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre>"Outside of a dog, <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>a book is probably man's best friend,<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>and inside of a dog, <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>it's too dark to read. <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>- Groucho Marx"<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Allison Rich<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Rare Materials Cataloguer<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>ESTC and NACO Coordinator<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>John Carter Brown Library<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Providence, Rhode Island<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a href="mailto:Allison_Rich@brown.edu" target="_blank">Allison_Rich@brown.edu</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>-- <br>Matthew C. Haugen<br>Rare Book Cataloger<br>102 Butler Library<br>Columbia University Libraries<br>E-mail: <a href="mailto:matthew.haugen@columbia.edu" target="_blank">matthew.haugen@columbia.edu</a><br>Phone: 212-851-2451<o:p></o:p></pre>
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