<div dir="ltr"><div>If I recall correctly, both "depicted" and "setting" relators were developed with the intent to parse out these types of relationships from the subject or "about" relationship. Examples in the MARC21 bibliographic format documentation for various 6xx fields include examples of "depicted" with a range of entity types:</div><div><br></div>60010$aMonroe, Marilyn,$d1926-1962,$edepicted.<br>[Silkscreen of Marilyn Monroe]<br><br>60010$aClovio, Giulio,$d1498-1578,$edepicted.<br>[Portrait of the miniaturist Giulio Clovio]<br><br>61010$aUnited States.$bSupreme Court,$edepicted.<br>[Group photo of the justices of the Supreme Court.]<br><br>61010$aUnited States.$bArmy.$bCavalry, 7th.$bCompany E,$edepicted.<br>[Picture of a Cavalry troop.]<br><br>61120$aDerby (Horse race)$xHistory$y20th century$jdepicted.<br><br>63000$aDomesday book,$edepicted.<br>[Photo of the Domesday book.]<br><br>650#0$aSeabiscuit (Race horse),$edepicted.<br>[Photograph of Seabiscuit, the race horse.]<br><br>650#0$aUnicorns,$edepicted.<br>[Bayeux Tapestry, showing a unicorn.]<br><br>651#0$aNiagara Falls (N.Y. and Ont.),$edepicted.<div><br>651#0$aBonneville Salt Flats (Utah),$edepicted.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Matt</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Lapka, Francis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:francis.lapka@yale.edu" target="_blank">francis.lapka@yale.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1f497d">Allison,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1f497d">I suppose there’s nothing to stop an agency from using the term in a narrow sense, e.g. paired only with individual persons.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1f497d">But taking it as defined,
<i>depicted</i> can be used with any entity – which means just about anything goes. An entity can be a person, group of persons, and so much more (any
<i>thing</i>, real or fictional). Note also the MARC relator term <i>setting</i>:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Setting [stg]</span></b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> An entity in which the activity or plot of a work takes
place, e.g. a geographic place, a time period, a building, an event<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1f497d">There, examples of entities include “geographic place, a time period, a building, an event.” It seems normal to me (and useful!) that
<i>depicted</i> should also be paired with the same variety of entities.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> <a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.<wbr>byu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Allison Rich<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 25, 2016 7:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Revision Group List <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] Question about relator term #e depicted<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif">Hi All:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif">I just worked with Ellen Cordes at the Lewis Walpole Library for a few days recently in order to learn how to catalogue</span><span>
</span><span style="font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif">graphic</span><span> materials
</span><span style="font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif">using DCRMG.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif">I had a fantastic time and Ellen is a wonderful teacher.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p>I started to put it into practice when I got back to my library and have run across a question which Ellen suggested I pose to the list:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>It involves the correct usage of the relator term #e depicted.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>The definition of the relator term reads:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>"<span class="m_6064708043853091569authorized">Depicted</span><span class="m_6064708043853091569relator-code"> [dpc]</span> -- An entity depicted or portrayed in a work, particularly in a work of art"<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Does the word "entity" have any weight here. Can I use the term with a group of persons (e.g. Jesuits or Quakers) or can it only apply to a single person, whether real of fictional?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Thanks for your advice and input.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Allison<u></u><u></u></p>
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