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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Just to clarify: “idealized” was a term used by the curator, not me.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Todd<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Noble, Richard<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 03, 2016 10:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] MARC 856 and links to electronic reproductions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 4:23 PM, Fell, Todd <<a href="mailto:todd.fell@yale.edu" target="_blank">todd.fell@yale.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Our catalog ought to describe our particular copy (albeit employing shared bibliographic standards), not an idealized version.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">I hope it remains understood that the proper basis for description of a particular copy is "ideal copy" description--not, I should emphasize, "idealized version", whatever we might take that to
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">"Ideal copy"--a descriptive category, not a Platonic entity--was an unfortunate choice of term to designate all those elements of a body of books that evidence their membership in nested sets called
edition, issue (the basic unit of ideal copy description, and what we basically mean by "manifestation") and state, the last comprising isolated variations among copies that do not give rise to separate classification.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">In ISBD(A) ideal copy description was mandated as the basic goal of "antiquarian" cataloging, which requires conscious assessment, based on more or less research as the situation warrants or allows,
to establish that any one copy is subsumed under a given manifestation, which can also mean recording variants that correspond to states, in order not to prevent the creation of false manifestations. This goal is stated, in other words, in DCRM(B) Introduction,
III.1.1. (perhaps wisely avoiding the word "ideal").<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">OCLC master records are manifestation records, and those of us who tag them dcrmb need to be aware at all times of those things which do belong in the "master record", and those which do not. This
goes beyond "shared bibliographic standards", which are simply devices to support the application of the underlying principles, and may need the occasional twist or bend to help us reach the goal.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">This may be an over-reaction--but my teaching experience has always been that "ideal" and "idealized" (or "perfect" or "actually good, unlike this depressing example of the printer's art") are too
commonly mixed up, and have to be directly addressed again and again.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">BROWN UNIVERSITY :: PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912 :: 401-863-1187</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><</span><a href="mailto:RICHARD_NOBLE@BROWN.EDU" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"'",serif">Richard_Noble@Br</span></a><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__own.edu&d=CwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=Np9Dv-N85TxuwGXDqbzvM-I_B1c6fwLXrzKWWE4fD3I&m=uXO0R-oRDa6lu0uS_VHErmplWc2jLduywqEWQyjSoJE&s=fQITA_GOLSYJS5ok2v96Np07S6agzDZVHHdkDJviTQo&e=" target="_blank">own.edu</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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