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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">Joan,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">Welcome to the list. As you’ve discovered already, the
<a href="https://www.loc.gov/aba/pcc/bibco/documents/PCC-RDA-BSR.pdf">BIBCO Standard Record</a> provides guidance on cataloging with RDA and DCRM(B). To your good questions:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">“ … shouldn’t I be using ‘p.’ and ‘ill.’?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">FL: Terms to record extent (pages, leaves of plates, etc.) and illustrative content are not transcribed, so we don’t apply RDA 1.7.2-1.7.9. For these elements,
we employ standard RDA terminology – avoiding abbreviations. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">“Similarly, do people use "[12] p." or “12 unnumbered pages”? DCRM(B) 5B3.1 and RDA 3.4.5.3.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">FL: Applying the BSR with rare materials, we record:
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D">[12] pages</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">. The conventions for recording unnumbered pages (square brackets!) follow DCRM, while the
terms for “pages” etc. are those used in RDA. See page 12 of the BSR.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">“Errors in titles, for example. DCRM(B) 0G7, 5B7.2, etc., say to use [i.e. …] or [sic]. RDA says transcribe as is, adding an access point for the version with the error
(2.3.14).”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">FL: RDA provides guidance for inaccuracies in 1.7.9, which is among the set of rules superseded by DCRM when applying the BSR for rare materials. Thus, apply
DCRM(B) 0G7, etc. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">Of course, it remains perfectly legitimate to continue to catalog according to DCRM(B) and AACR2 for descriptive cataloging, using RDA guidelines for access points.
See: <a href="http://rbms.info/dcrm/rda/">http://rbms.info/dcrm/rda/</a>. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">The RDA-compatible successor to DCRM (RBMS Policy Statements) is coming soon. Community review will begin this fall.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">I welcome other questions, on or off list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">Francis<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Semilight",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Francis Lapka · Catalog Librarian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Semilight",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Dept. of Rare Books and Manuscripts<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Semilight",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Yale Center for British Art<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Semilight",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">203.432.9672 ·
<a href="mailto:francis.lapka@yale.edu">francis.lapka@yale.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Joan Milligan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 03, 2017 11:55 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] RDA or DCRM(B)? abbreviations, brackets, and errors<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Hello, everyone,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">I’m new to this list and new to DCRM(B), so forgive me if you’ve had this discussion before. I know RDA
is in flux and therefore decisions about its relationship to DCRM(B) is not complete. I'd be interested in common practice, however.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">(In addition to looking at an 040) I can recognize an RDA and DCRM(B) bib by these things</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">:</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">1. Use of 264 fields</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">2. Use of 33Xs</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">3. Additional access points (such as "Recording Relationships between Works, Expressions, Manifestations,
& Items.")</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">However, I am less sure about the relationship between RDA and DCRM(B) in these examples (meaning, which
one overrides the other?):</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">1. Spell out words: I’ve been using “pages” not “p.” and “illustrations” not “ill,” as I have seen in examples.
But the BIBCO Standard Record: RDA Metadata Application File says “Use Descriptive Cataloging of Rare Materials as the “designated published style manual” in place of instructions given under RDA 1.72-1.79 for transcribing punctuation, numerals, symbols, abbreviations,
etc. “ Therefore, shouldn’t I be using “p.” and “ill.”?</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">2. Similarly, do people use "[12] p." or “12 unnumbered pages”? DCRM(B) 5B3.1 and RDA 3.4.5.3.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-msolistparagraph"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">3.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Errors in titles,
for example. DCRM(B) 0G7, 5B7.2, etc., say to use [i.e. …] or [sic]. RDA says transcribe as is, adding an access point for the version with the error (2.3.14).</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">I appreciate your feedback!</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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