<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Wonderful, Francis! Thank you for your concise and understandable answers.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Deborah, yes, of course you're right; I wasn't thinking about OCLC's manipulations. I can see what you mean about additional access points; examples would be publishers, former owners, etc.? Uniform titles, obviously. What else? I suppose an access point for related manifestations wouldn't be used very much, except for online versions? Have you ever used a 7XX with something like "$i Container of (work)"? </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Notes of any other prominent DCRM(B) vs. RDA situations are welcome!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Thanks so much,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Joan</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="tahoma, sans-serif" color="#990000">Joan Milligan</font><div><font size="2" face="tahoma, sans-serif" color="#990000">Special Collections Cataloger</font></div><div><font size="2" face="tahoma, sans-serif" color="#999999">University of Dayton Libraries</font></div><div><font size="2" face="tahoma, sans-serif" color="#999999">300 College Park</font></div><div><font size="2" face="tahoma, sans-serif" color="#999999">Dayton, Ohio 45469-1360</font><div><div><div><font size="2" face="tahoma, sans-serif" color="#999999">937-229-4075</font></div><div><a href="mailto:jmilligan1@udayton.edu" target="_blank"><font size="2" face="tahoma, sans-serif" color="#999999">jmilligan1@udayton.edu</font></a></div></div><div> <br></div><div><img src="https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0B_XOks_ZMrT8Y3FzQXc2X3YzdHc&revid=0B_XOks_ZMrT8MDFUeHJYSkZ0Qm0veW5oL0VVVG8wTi9nRXY4PQ"><br></div><div style="text-align:left">
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Deborah J. Leslie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:DJLeslie@folger.edu" target="_blank">DJLeslie@folger.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d">Thanks to Francis for replying to Joan's specific questions. I'd like to respond to her musings on recognizing RDA-compliant DCRM(B) records. The good news: catalogers
aren't left to adjudicate conflicts between DCRM and RDA on their own. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d">RDA-compliant DCRM records indicate that the DCRM manuals provide the basic instruction, but certain elements are formulated a bit more like RDA, as instructed by
the BIBCO Standard Record. In practical terms, start with DCRM(B) and check whether the BSR requires any modification for individual elements. Save going to RDA first for access points.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d">There's only one truly valid way of identifying RDA-compliant DCRM(B) records, which is the coding in
<a href="https://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bdleader.html" target="_blank">Descriptive conventions (LDR/18)</a> and the 040.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d">Classic DCRM(B): LDR/18=a 040=</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">ǂ</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d">e
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d">RDA-compliant DCRM(B): LDR/18=i 040=</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">ǂ</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d">e
rda</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"> ǂ</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d">e dcrmb<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d">The use of 264 instead of 260 comes in a close second, though. A record with 264's but without an 040
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">ǂ</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d">e rda should be considered an anomaly. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d">Spelling out of "pages" &c. in the 300 is a false friend: certain automatic manipulations made by OCLC (and offered by other vendors) expanded these abbreviations
on many records, thereby blurring consistency and identification of the descriptive code used.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d">33X's were added to MARC because of an RDA requirement, but their use is compatible in non-RDA records; their presence doesn't anything one way or another about
the descriptive code used. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d">Additional access points have long been a marker of rare materials cataloging, so their presence doesn't say anything one way or another about the descriptive code
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d">Best,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d">Deborah<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#5f497a">Deborah J. Leslie | Folger Shakespeare Library | <a href="mailto:djleslie@folger.edu" target="_blank">djleslie@folger.edu</a> |<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 03 July, 2017 11:55<span class=""><br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] RDA or DCRM(B)? abbreviations, brackets, and errors<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">I’m new to this list and new to DCRM(B), so forgive me if you’ve had this discussion before. I know RDA is in flux and
therefore decisions about its relationship to DCRM(B) is not complete. I'd be interested in common practice, however.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">(In addition to looking at an 040) I can recognize an RDA and DCRM(B) bib by these things:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">3. Additional access points (such as "Recording Relationships between Works, Expressions, Manifestations, & Items.")</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">However, I am less sure about the relationship between RDA and DCRM(B) in these examples (meaning, which one overrides
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">1. Spell out words: I’ve been using “pages” not “p.” and “illustrations” not “ill,” as I have seen in examples. But the
BIBCO Standard Record: RDA Metadata Application File says “Use Descriptive Cataloging of Rare Materials as the “designated published style manual” in place of instructions given under RDA 1.72-1.79 for transcribing punctuation, numerals, symbols, abbreviations,
etc. “ Therefore, shouldn’t I be using “p.” and “ill.”?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">2. Similarly, do people use "[12] p." or “12 unnumbered pages”? DCRM(B) 5B3.1 and RDA 3.4.5.3.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">I appreciate your feedback!</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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