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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">With a 2003 publication, AMREMM* would be ready for revision, even without the need to reconsider its principles and provisions in light of RDA. A couple of points
of interest that put it conceptually outside the DCRM suite:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">Although published by the BSC through our parent body ACRL, it has a personal author, Gregory Pass. He consulted widely with the BSC and other groups,
and generally (if not always) accommodated our suggestions, but at the end of the day, he is the author.
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">Gregory's remit was to align scholarly conventions used in describing medieval manuscripts with library descriptive conventions based on AACR2. One of
the main deviations in practice is that of main entry. 1.1B6, for example, gives main entries in examples of devising titles, and it is clear that the manuscript as a physical object is the source of main entry.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">[Books of hours : use of Rouen]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">Main entry under</span></i></b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">: Catholic Church<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">Uniform title</span></i></b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">: Book of hours (Ms. National
Art Library. MSL/1902/1654)<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">Added entry under</span></i></b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">: National Art Library
(Great Britain). Manuscript. MSL/1902/1654</span></i><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">It's sensible that manuscripts of all time periods should be considered together. It will be interesting to see what comes of it.
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">*I can't resist bringing up a quip I made at the time, which I thought was funny but not sure anyone else did. Since the title is
<u>De</u>scriptive <u>C</u>ataloging of <u>A</u>ncient, <u>M</u>edieval, <u>R</u>enaissance, and
<u>E</u>arly <u>M</u>odern <u>M</u>anuscripts, we missed the chance of acronyming it DECAMREMM.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#5F497A">Deborah J. Leslie | Folger Shakespeare Library | djleslie@folger.edu |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> DCRM-L [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lapka, Francis<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 07 September, 2017 08:20<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] AMREMM and RDA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Thank you Matt for providing a good summary of where things stand. To this I'll add that BSR guidelines for manuscripts are in development. A draft will be shared with this list soon.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">In 2018, I expect that the RBMS Bibliographic Standards Committee will initiate additional activity concerning manuscripts and RDA. At that time, we'll consider options such as those that Matt
has described.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Francis <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#212121">Dept. of Rare Books and Manuscripts</span><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#212121">203.432.9672 · </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";color:#212121"><a href="mailto:francis.lapka@yale.edu" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">francis.lapka@yale.edu</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> DCRM-L <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>>
on behalf of Matthew C. Haugen <<a href="mailto:matthew.haugen@columbia.edu">matthew.haugen@columbia.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 6, 2017 4:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] AMREMM and RDA</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">HI Ryan,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I'm not aware of any information on creating RDA-compliant AMREMM records.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">The BIBCO and CONSER standard record profiles contain provisions for creating RDA-compliant DCRM records for all of the AACR2-based DCRM manuals, except for DCRM (MSS), though
I believe that update is pending.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">And the DCRM Task Force had postponed work on manuscript materials of all time periods when drafting the RBMS Policy Statements for RDA-based rare materials instructions, so that
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I wonder if any of these options might be feasible or desirable for BSC to pursue?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">1. Publish an RDA-compliant revision to AMREMM as a standalone manual, like the original.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">2. Draft additional RBMS Policy Statements for these materials, that when published along with the rest of RBMS-PS, would supersede AMREMM. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">3. Submit provisions to be added to the BSR profile for creating RDA-compliant records using AMREMM as it currently stands, similar to the current arrangement with the other DCRM
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">4. Publish its own similar application profile for creating RDA-compliant records using AMREMM as it currently stands, without going through LC/PCC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Matt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 5:28 PM, Ryan Hildebrand <<a href="mailto:rhilde@uoregon.edu" target="_blank">rhilde@uoregon.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Can anyone point me to helpful information on creating RDA compliant AMREMM records? I don’t have specific questions at the moment, but would like to understand
issues others may have already tackled.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre><span style="color:black">-- <br>Matthew C. Haugen<br>Rare Book Cataloger<br>102 Butler Library<br>Columbia University Libraries<br>E-mail: <a href="mailto:matthew.haugen@columbia.edu" target="_blank">matthew.haugen@columbia.edu</a><br>Phone: 212-851-2451<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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