<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size:12.8px;white-space:nowrap"><font face="georgia, serif">Dear Jane and all--</font></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size:12.8px;white-space:nowrap"><font face="georgia, serif"><br></font></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size:12.8px;white-space:nowrap"><font face="georgia, serif">Thanks for reminding me of this. Advancing age and a few decades of dealing with weirdness had obscured my memory of this correspondence.</font></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size:12.8px;white-space:nowrap"><font face="georgia, serif"><br></font></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size:12.8px;white-space:nowrap"><font face="georgia, serif">What's really numbered in Noah's book is the sheets. A more complex example of this sort of thing (from 1484)</font></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size:12.8px;white-space:nowrap"><font face="georgia, serif"><br></font></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia, serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px;white-space:nowrap"> <a href="http://josiah.brown.edu/record=b8068058">http://josiah.brown.edu/record=b8068058</a> (OCLC #</span></font><span style="font-size:12.8px;white-space:nowrap;font-family:georgia,serif">270643286)</span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size:12.8px;white-space:nowrap;font-family:georgia,serif"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;white-space:nowrap">Collation: 4to: <ABCD>⁸ <EFGH>⁸ <IKLM>⁸
<NOP>⁶ [$1-4 (-<NOP>4) direction lettered]; 30 leaves,</span><span style="font-size:12.8px;white-space:nowrap"><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt">unnumbered (last leaf blank). The lettering is by sheets,
and does not serve to designate the quires as<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><span> </span>ordinary signatures
do. The book could also be described as "unsigned, 1-3⁸ 4⁶". BM XVth
century <span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt">notes, "The method of signing the sheets with
consecutive letters had been used at Passau by <span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt">Benedictus Mayr, with whom Johann Alakraw was in partnership
in 1482."</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><font face="georgia, serif">It could be that
<span style="font-size:14.6667px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">1-3⁸ 4⁶ with discursive note would have been the better course, but books can make one a bit dizzy.</span></font></p>
</span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size:12.8px;white-space:nowrap"><b><br></b></span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><font face="'courier new', monospace">RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY</font><div><font face="'courier new', monospace">BROWN UNIVERSITY :: PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912 :: 401-863-1187</font></div><div><span style="font-family:'courier new',monospace"><</span><a href="mailto:RICHARD_NOBLE@BROWN.EDU" style="font-family:'courier new',monospace" target="_blank">Richard_Noble@Br</a><span style="font-family:'courier new',monospace"><a href="http://own.edu" target="_blank">own.edu</a></span><span style="font-family:'courier new',monospace">></span></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 7:14 PM, Carpenter, Jane <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jfcarpenter@library.ucla.edu" target="_blank">jfcarpenter@library.ucla.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Here is the complete thread for this question; read from bottom up<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Jane Carpenter<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">UCLA Library Special Collections<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Nina,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Maybe for greater clarity:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">“first 3 leaves of each
<b>of the first 16</b> gatherings are numbered continuously from 1 to 51; first leaf of last gathering is numbered 52.”<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.<wbr>byu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Schneider, Nina<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 25, 2015 11:44 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] crazy signatures<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Thanks to Jane (and Richard and Joseph), here’s what I came up with:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Signatures: pi⁴ [1]-[16]⁶ [17]²; first 3 leaves of each gathering are numbered continuously from 1 to 51; first leaf of last gathering is numbered 52.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Would this make sense if you were reading the description without the book in hand?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">
<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.<wbr>byu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Noble, Richard<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 25, 2015 11:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] crazy signatures<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">I like Jane's approach. It serves the formulary purpose quite elegantly, without saying (falsely) that the book is unsigned. The underlying principle is that one uses the printer's designations
of gatherings <i>if</i> they are not confusing in the context of a collational formula.<u></u><u></u></span></p><span class="">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">BROWN UNIVERSITY :: PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912 :: 401-863-1187</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><</span><a href="mailto:RICHARD_NOBLE@BROWN.EDU" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">Richard_Noble@Br</span></a><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><a href="http://own.edu" target="_blank">own.edu</a>></span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</span><p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Carpenter, Jane <<a href="mailto:jfcarpenter@library.ucla.edu" target="_blank">jfcarpenter@library.ucla.edu</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Nina,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I had a similar situation with parts of a 1520 Venetian Talmud—</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I gave the collation in brackets, and then in a note, explained that the first four leaves of each
gathering were numbered continuously:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Here’s the note as I wrote it:
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">[part 4 (Nezikin), 8]: Avodah Zarah [1520]]: 97 leaves; signatures: [1]-[11]⁸ [12]¹⁰; final blank leaf
[12]₁₀ wanting; first 4 leaves of each gathering are numbered continuously from 1 to 44; first 5 leaves of last gathering numbered 44-49. ‡5 CLUS</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.<wbr>byu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Noble, Richard<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 25, 2015 9:03 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] crazy signatures</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">"Continuous bifolium numeration"--certainly as good a term as any--is obviously analogous to the direction numbering that one occasionally
encounters in later books. Per Bowers one treats such gatherings as "unsigned", which is fine if they're isolated pi's or chi's; but because Nina's example is numbered in a way that could be used for reference, one searches for a way to incorporate the numbers
into a formula.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">Maybe (I dunno) 1/2/3-49/50/51^6 52^2? Explanation will be required, whatever one does, and it could just as well be [unsigned, 1-17^6
18^2], which tells the structural story very neatly, but doesn't work very well for reference; and a formula that doesn't refer well doesn't quite fulfill its purpose.</span><u></u><u></u></p><span class="">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all">
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">BROWN UNIVERSITY :: PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912 :: <a href="tel:401-863-1187" target="_blank">401-863-1187</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><</span><a href="mailto:RICHARD_NOBLE@BROWN.EDU" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">Richard_Noble@Br</span></a><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><a href="http://own.edu" target="_blank">own.edu</a>></span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
</span><p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Joseph Ross <<a href="mailto:jross@nd.edu" target="_blank">jross@nd.edu</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Nina,<u></u><u></u></p><span class="">
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I seem to remember this as one of the unusual signature patterns of the manuscript period. The term that comes to mind is "continuous bifolia numeration." There is no quire signature
but the bifolia are numbered continuously from beginning to end. It was not a common practice. I don't remember if any printers used it. Sorry I don't have any references I can quote.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
</span><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888">Joseph Ross</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888">Rare Books Cataloger</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888">University of Notre Dame</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Schneider, Nina <<a href="mailto:nschneider@humnet.ucla.edu" target="_blank">nschneider@humnet.ucla.edu</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Another question for the advance bibliographers amongst us...<span class=""><br>
<br>
I have in my hand the French translation of Hystoyre et plaisante cronicque. It is printed in 1793/4 (an II) in Paris. It is signed in such a way that I'm at a loss on how to record it.<br>
<br>
It starts off innocently enough: pi^4 but then this happens (and this is a page-by page recreation):<br>
1,2,3, [unsigned], [unsigned], [unsigned], 4, 5,6, [unsigned], [unsigned], [unsigned], 7,8,9, [unsigned], [unsigned], [unsigned], 10, 11, 12, [unsigned], [unsigned], [unsigned] ... 49, 50, 51 [unsigned], [unsigned], [unsigned], 52, [unsigned].<br>
<br></span>
Is there a way to capture this in a signature statement or do I just include the whole thing? Bowers is failing me.<br>
<br>
Chain lines run vertical. My uncut copy is 14 cm high.<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance!<br>
<br>
Nina<br>
<br>
+---------------<br>
Nina M. Schneider<br>
Rare Books Librarian<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> DCRM-L [mailto:<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.<wbr>byu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Joseph Ross<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 13, 2018 2:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] signature statement question<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div class="h5">
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Noah,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This situation has come up on our list before in a discussion on Friday September 25, 2015. Nina Schneider posed the question:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <i><span style="font-family:Consolas">I have in my hand the French translation of Hystoyre et plaisante
</span></i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">><i> cronicque. It is printed in 1793/4 (an II) in Paris. It is signed in such a</i></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">><i> way that I'm at a loss on how to record it.<br>
</i>><i><br>
</i>><i> It starts off innocently enough: pi^4 but then this happens (and this is a<br>
</i>><i> page-by page recreation):<br>
</i>><i> 1,2,3, [unsigned], [unsigned], [unsigned], 4, 5,6, [unsigned], [unsigned],<br>
</i>><i> [unsigned], 7,8,9, [unsigned], [unsigned], [unsigned], 10, 11, 12,<br>
</i>><i> [unsigned], [unsigned], [unsigned] ... 49, 50, 51 [unsigned], [unsigned],<br>
</i>></span><i> [unsigned], 52, [unsigned]. </i><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i>I made the following point to the discussion: ''</i><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> <i><span style="font-family:Consolas">I seem to remember this as one of the unusual signature patterns of the
</span></i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">><i> manuscript period. The term that comes to mind is "continuous bifolia<br>
</i>><i> numeration." There is no quire signature but the bifolia are numbered<br>
</i>><i> continuously from beginning to end. It was not a common practice. I don't<br>
</i>><i> remember if any printers used it. Sorry I don't have any references I can<br>
</i>><i> quote. I still think that is the best description of this signature pattern. Joseph Ross Unversity of Notre Dame
</i></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 1:29 PM, Noble, Richard <<a href="mailto:richard_noble@brown.edu" target="_blank">richard_noble@brown.edu</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">Dear Noah,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">I'm not sure there's one correct way to deal with this, but it's best to follow the structure in the formula and use the signing statement to explain what one sees--so something like:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif"> Collation: folio: [1]^10 (signing 1st rectos of the inner 4 bifolia as b-e)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">If that seems too much compressed for the sake of compression, the signing statement could be presented as a discursive note pretty much like the description in your inquiry, which is perfectly
clear; but the formula seems a useful bibliographical declaration that this is structurally a single unsigned folio gathering of 10 leaves. Those who understand the formula and those who care are probably the same people.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">Richard<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am cataloging a folio, consisting of a single gathering of 5 bifolia. The first leaf is unsigned, the second is signed "b", the third "c", the fourth "d", and the fifth "e". I don't think I've seen this before and am uncertain how to
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<p class="MsoNormal">For context, the imprint is Lisbon, 1767.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></p>
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