<div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font-size:12.8px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Apologies to the list. The specific issue I am referring to is the expansion of col. (for columns) to color.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Previous message:</span></div>

<span style="font-size:12.8px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><div><span style="font-size:12.8px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br></span></div>This issue still has not been completely resolved.</span><div style="font-size:12.8px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">As an example, records for the 1608 edition of  "V.C. Bertrandi d'Argentré Redonensis provinciae praesidis, Commentarii in patrias britonum leges ..." have not been corrected. </div><div style="font-size:12.8px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">See: </div><div style="font-size:12.8px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">OCLC #897942496 (eng)</div><div style="font-size:12.8px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">           #716754339 (fre)</div><div style="font-size:12.8px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">           #53579089 (fre)</div><div style="font-size:12.8px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">           #875160702 (ita)</div><div style="font-size:12.8px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">I started to submit error reports. Is something on a larger scale warranted?<br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Gordon</div><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline">

<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">E. Gordon Van Pielt<br>Law Librarian<div>Jacob Burns Law Library<br>716 20th St., NW<br>Washington, D.C. 20052<br>Phone: (202)994-5173<br>FAX: 202/994-2874</div><div><br></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 10:32 AM, Deborah J. Leslie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:DJLeslie@folger.edu" target="_blank">DJLeslie@folger.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d">Let me add my thanks for bringing this up. In my fantasy world, significant algorithms OCLC uses to "update" descriptive cataloging data would be shared in advance
 with important stakeholders, to help prevent mistakes like this one. At least they can be fixed after the fact.      <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#5f497a">Deborah J. Leslie | Folger Shakespeare Library | <a href="mailto:djleslie@folger.edu" target="_blank">djleslie@folger.edu</a> |<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Matthew C. Haugen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 23 February, 2018 10:21<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] FW: early printed books : yikes<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for sharing this! It reminds me of a similar phenomenon I noticed a couple years ago and reported to OCLC Quality Control.<u></u><u></u></p>
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 identified," but in some cases, other initialisms in place or publisher names containing <span style="background:white">S. L., S. N., or N. D also got swept up in the change:</span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Lemberg : ǂb Druck des S. L. Flecker, ǂc 1862.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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New York ; ǂa Oxford : ǂb Oxford University Press for the U.N.D.P, ǂc 1992. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Karnal : ǂb N.D.R.I., ǂc 1972.<br>
Karnal : ǂb Date of publication not identifiedR.I., ǂc 1972.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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 the problem was to begin with. But keep an eye out in case any have slipped through OCLC's algorithms or into your local institutions' catalogs. </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 3:32 PM, Andrews, Susan <<a href="mailto:susan.andrews@ubc.ca" target="_blank">susan.andrews@ubc.ca</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Deborah J. Leslie [mailto:<a href="mailto:DJLeslie@FOLGER.edu" target="_blank">DJLeslie@FOLGER.edu</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> February-05-18 7:14 AM<br>
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#5f497a">Dear</span><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> FW: early printed books
 : yikes</span><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="color:#1f497d">Dear Rare Book people,</span><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="color:#1f497d">First of all my apologies for the delay in passing this on to you. I was away on vacation, then got inundated with urgent cataloguing issues
 to deal with when I got back.</span><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="color:#1f497d">I started to think this e-mail thread was too stale to pass on, but you can always delete something you already know all about!</span><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="color:#1f497d">Many if you will be on the OCLC-CAT listserv, so this will be old news.</span><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="color:#1f497d">For others, you might want to read the following, and to check samples of your records in OCLC to see if they got affected.</span><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="color:#1f497d">Best wishes, Sue.</span><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1f497d">******************************<wbr>*************</span></i><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">Sue Andrews</span></i><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">Principal Cataloguer</span></i><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">University of British Columbia Library</span></i><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d"><a href="https://maps.google.com/?q=2198+Health+Sciences+Mall,+Vancouver+BC+V6T+1Z3&entry=gmail&source=g" target="_blank">2198 Health
 Sciences Mall, Vancouver BC V6T 1Z3</a></span></i><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">Tel.
<a href="tel:(604)%20822-4995" target="_blank">604-822-4995</a>  Email: <a href="mailto:susan.andrews@ubc.ca" target="_blank">
susan.andrews@ubc.ca</a></span></i><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> OCLC-Cataloging [<a href="mailto:OCLC-CAT@OCLCLISTS.ORG" target="_blank">mailto:OCLC-CAT@OCLCLISTS.ORG</a><wbr>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bremer,Robert<br>
<b>Sent:</b> January-30-18 1:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:OCLC-CAT@OCLCLISTS.ORG" target="_blank">OCLC-CAT@OCLCLISTS.ORG</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OCLC-CAT] early printed books : yikes<span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello,<span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you for letting us know about this issue.  We will work on getting the needed adjustments made to all the affected bibliographic records.<span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Robert Bremer<span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Senior Consulting Database Specialist<span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">OCLC Metadata Quality<span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> OCLC-Cataloging [<a href="mailto:OCLC-CAT@OCLCLISTS.ORG" target="_blank">mailto:OCLC-CAT@OCLCLISTS.ORG</a><wbr>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrews, Susan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 30, 2018 3:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> OCLC-CAT <<a href="mailto:OCLC-CAT@oclclists.org" target="_blank">OCLC-CAT@oclclists.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [OCLC-CAT] early printed books : yikes<span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Hi folks,</span><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">First of all:  sorry if this has been mentioned on this List already!!</span><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I just wanted to alert you (and hopefully some programmer for OCLC!) to a problem I discovered yesterday when cataloguing an early printed book.</span><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I always get excited when I have a book with numbered columns (instead of pages or leaves) because I get to apply that lovely collation rule that talks about the
 extent of  text in terms of columns.</span><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">At first when I searched OCLC to find matching copy I was confused by 300 fields that looked like there were illustrated versions of my book!</span><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Then I realized that some program had
<i>unhelpfully</i> expanded “col.” (for column) to “color”.  Now  to be fair, this might have been the fault of a contributing library, but I did a quick search and found that it is now quite rampant in the database!  It is hard for me to imagine that so many
 libraries modified their local rare book records so dramatically.</span><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Here are some suspicious records to look at:</span><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">82679282  (Berkeley please check your copy)</span><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">367569195 (Brigham Young please check your copy)</span><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">702171855 (Yale please check your copy)</span><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The holding/contributing libraries are very wide-ranging including both national libraries, and other major research libraries.</span><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I hope someone at OCLC has some way to reverse this damage!   Specifically in 300 “a”, of course.</span><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Sue.</span><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">Principal Cataloguer</span></i><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">University of British Columbia Library</span></i><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d"><a href="https://maps.google.com/?q=2198+Health+Sciences+Mall,+Vancouver+BC+V6T+1Z3&entry=gmail&source=g" target="_blank">2198 Health
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<pre>-- <br>Matthew C. Haugen<br>Rare Book Cataloger<br>102 Butler Library<br>Columbia University Libraries<br>E-mail: <a href="mailto:matthew.haugen@columbia.edu" target="_blank">matthew.haugen@columbia.edu</a><br>Phone: 212-851-2451<u></u><u></u></pre>
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