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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">Thank you Ryan, Richard, Philippe! This is all helpful.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">I see now that AAT has “lithographic engraving (printing process)” and “lithographic engravings (prints)”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">Francis<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> DCRM-L [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jean Mongeau<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 16, 2018 3:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] litho-engraving?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I found this article with more information about the process as well:
<a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbooks.google.com%2Fbooks%3Fid%3DzzkyAQAAMAAJ%26pg%3DRA8-PA29%26lpg%3DRA8-PA29%26dq%3D%2522litho-engraving%2522%2Bdefinition%26source%3Dbl%26ots%3D_ULMgqjyL8%26sig%3D7JFBowOqraydpDhpE1gDKqp04XQ%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX%26ved%3D2ahUKEwjK7uGE1tneAhUO7lMKHdxRBrEQ6AEwA3oECAQQAQ%23v%3Donepage%26q%3D%2522litho-engraving%2522%2520definition%26f%3Dfalse&data=02%7C01%7Cfrancis.lapka%40yale.edu%7Cbb3e29c5c938420ab87808d64bff8e70%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C636779958328577163&sdata=IiplnUWpBbYyzLDhiXo3uPeD%2FauqT5r9WqnHbglLHgw%3D&reserved=0">
https://books.google.com/books?id=zzkyAQAAMAAJ&pg=RA8-PA29&lpg=RA8-PA29&dq=%22litho-engraving%22+definition&source=bl&ots=_ULMgqjyL8&sig=7JFBowOqraydpDhpE1gDKqp04XQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjK7uGE1tneAhUO7lMKHdxRBrEQ6AEwA3oECAQQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22litho-engraving%22%20definition&f=false</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hope it helps (or that it is at least interesting).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Philippe<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> DCRM-L [<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Noble, Richard<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 16, 2018 3:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Revision Group List <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] litho-engraving?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">Also have a look at Gascoigne 19f, "Stone engraving", and 20c, "Transfer from intaglio", either of which could be called "lith-engraving".<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">BROWN UNIVERSITY :: PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912 :: 401-863-1187</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 3:00 PM Ryan Hildebrand <<a href="mailto:rhilde@uoregon.edu">rhilde@uoregon.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Francis,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">See Felix Brunner’s Handbook of Graphic Reproduction Processes for a discussion of the technique (litho etching, too). Here is the essential bit: “the
litho engraving lies halfway between planographic and intaglio printing. It is an imitation of copperplate engraving and etching and was developed during that phase of printing history when the lithographic technique permitted quicker and cheaper production
than intaglio machines ... The engraving is done with sharp steel needles or with a drawing diamond…” –Ryan</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Ryan Hildebrand</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Authorities & Special Collections Cataloging Librarian</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">University of Oregon Libraries</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">1299 University of Oregon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Eugene OR 97403-1299</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b> DCRM-L <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lapka, Francis<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 16, 2018 11:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> '<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>' <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] litho-engraving?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">I have in hand an amusing set of cards that parody carte de visite photographs, perhaps made during the 1860s (given the subject matter).
The V&A has some too, including this charming puss:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif"><a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcollections.vam.ac.uk%2Fitem%2FO589018%2Fnot-the-only-puss-that-satirical-print-rock-co%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cfrancis.lapka%40yale.edu%7Cbb3e29c5c938420ab87808d64bff8e70%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C636779958328587172&sdata=rTd5N42dAoBme5tZdsPd2PKpG4Jhe%2FMQ%2Borg%2Fxob0D8%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O589018/not-the-only-puss-that-satirical-print-rock-co/</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">For materials and techniques, the V&A calls this a “litho-engraving,” a term I haven’t encountered before, and one I don’t see in standard
sources such as Gascoigne. What does it mean? Is it intended to mean a lithographic reproduction of an intaglio print? To my eye the lines look plausibly etched (under a loop), but I recognize that this look could be mimicked.
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