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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Theoretically, according to Gaskell (p.86, Key II, no.9), a 24mo with horizontal chain lines could have 6 leaves (24mo the 16 way) but
it must be very rare. All I can say is that dealers are not infallible, so it is always worth checking their descriptions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> DCRM-L <dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rutkowski, June<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 13 June 2019 15:37<br>
<b>To:</b> dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] Determining bibliographical format<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I am fresh off of Deborah J. Leslie’s Rare Book Cataloging course at the Rare Book School, and I have my first rare book sitting in front of me. It’s a French book from 1679.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">One question I have is about determining format. The book dealer says it’s a 24mo. The gatherings have 6 leaves each, the chain lines are horizontal, and the height is 13 cm.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">According to my chart a 24mo with horizontal chain lines cannot have 6 leaves. I’m thinking it’s a 12mo.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">There is a dcrmb record in OCLC for a 12mo copy that is very similar to mine (signatures and number of preliminary pages are different). 973455836.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">So, my questions are: how much weight does a cataloger give to a dealer’s description? And, is the information I’ve provided here (gatherings of 6 leaves, horizontal chain lines, height 13 cm) enough evidence to determine
that my book is a 12mo?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">If this is an inappropriate question please be gentle with me. I’m an old cataloger, but a spanking new rare-book cataloger, eager to participate in this community.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">June Rutkowski<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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