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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Ah yes, Apollo’s banquet! What an interesting item to catalog! And while I’m responding to the list, can I take this opportunity to say how much I appreciate this community and the thoughtful responses to questions.
I have been lurking and learning a great deal in the process.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">All the best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Laura<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Laura N. Yust
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Senior Music Cataloging Specialist<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:gray">Library of Congress<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> DCRM-L <dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Deborah J. Leslie<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 29, 2019 10:43 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'DCRM Users' Group' <dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Brackets or no brackets?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">It's unanimous from public and private responses. Check out the record
<a href="http://hamnet.folger.edu/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?BBID=354371">here</a> if you're interested. The lion's share of the cataloging was done by a student in my recent Advanced Rare Book Cataloging course; she can out herself if she wants.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#2E74B5">Deborah J Leslie (she/her) | Senior Cataloger | Folger Shakespeare Library | 201 East Capitol Street, S.E. Washington, DC 20003 |
<a href="mailto:djleslie@folger.edu"><span style="color:#2E74B5;text-decoration:none">djleslie@folger.edu</span></a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> DCRM-L <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Randal S. BRANDT<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 28 October, 2019 19:00<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Brackets or no brackets?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Deborah,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ah, my favorite type of book to catalog ... the one with no title page. Ha! I'm going to agree with Bob and Patrick and recommend option 2 with, as also previously recommended, ample notes explaining the situation. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Randy<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 12:34 PM Deborah J. Leslie <<a href="mailto:DJLeslie@folger.edu">DJLeslie@folger.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks to those who have responded. I want to note that the titles given in these advertisements correspond pretty accurately
to the published title pages. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">Regarding which edition/date, the first edition was apparently published in 1669 (see, e.g.,
<a href="https://imslp.org/wiki/Apollo%27s_Banquet_(Playford%2C_John)" target="_blank">
https://imslp.org/wiki/Apollo%27s_Banquet_(Playford%2C_John)</a>, and it appeared in the Arber Term catalogue of Easter term 1670. The heretofore earliest extant copy is possibly a fifth edition in 1687 (filmed copy of National Library of Scotland available
via HathiTrust). The bookseller Ken Spelman writes in his very thorough description that it couldn't have been the 1669 edition because it contains a song not included there (I don't know how he knows, maybe there
<i>is</i> an extant copy somewhere), and that the fifth edition has many more songs and tunes than in this copy. So, presumably one of the (unrecorded) 2nd, 3rd, or 4th edition.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#2E74B5">Deborah J Leslie (she/her) | Senior Cataloger | Folger Shakespeare Library | 201 East Capitol Street, S.E. Washington, DC 20003 |
<a href="mailto:djleslie@folger.edu" target="_blank"><span style="color:#2E74B5;text-decoration:none">djleslie@folger.edu</span></a>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Patrick Crowley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 28 October, 2019 14:48<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Brackets or no brackets?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi!<br>
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I would rule out Option 1, as I think that, even if the title as transcribed in the advertisements is a faithful transcription of the title printed on the missing title page, it cannot record any mistakes or quirks on the title page.<br>
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I think Option 3 is perhaps overly cautious, especially if you could confirm that a couple of the other advertised titles are close transcriptions of their title page. That rests on the others being cataloged and your having access in person or to scans; I've
not looked into how available they are. Again, I think that kind of research would mainly be warranted if you really wanted to rest easy. (I would probably end up spending a little time on this, just to set my Lawful Good brain at ease).<br>
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Option 2 seems to me the most pragmatic. It seems very likely that this transcription is going to be fairly authoritative, not lease because of its lengthy specificity. That's a good amount of type to set for an inaccurate title page. And, absent the title
page, this is a good and believable title. So I think you are safe transcribing from that and adding appropriate descriptive notes.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 2:18 PM Deborah J. Leslie <<a href="mailto:DJLeslie@folger.edu" target="_blank">DJLeslie@folger.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">I'm in a quandary about whether to use square brackets in the 245 and 260.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">Condition</span></b><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">: An unrecorded music book is missing its title page. However, the last
page has bookseller's advertisements which lists this very book, and there is imprint-like information at the head of the page.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">Option</span></b><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">: Transcribe the title and the imprint from this source, and do not use square
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<span style="font-family:"Courier New"">245 02 A tutor to the violin, or, Apollo's banquet : ǂb containing a collection of new ayres, theater-tunes and jiggs : to which is added the tunes of French dances, as they are used at court and dancing-schools : also
plain instructions for the understanding the gamut, and notes for tune and time on the violin. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Courier New"">260 [London] : ǂb Printed for John Playford, at his shop near the Temple Church, ǂc [between 1669 and 1687]
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">Option</span></b><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">: Transcribe the title and the imprint from this source, and use square brackets
because although it's transcribed from the manifestation, it would be inappropriate to consider the advertisements as a title page substitute, as (dcrmb 0C3, 1B5)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Courier New"">245 03 [A tutor to the violin, or, Apollo's banquet : ǂb containing a collection of new ayres, theater-tunes and jiggs : to which is added the tunes of French dances, as they are used at court and dancing-schools : also
plain instructions for the understanding the gamut, and notes for tune and time on the violin]. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Courier New"">260 [London] : ǂb [Printed for John Playford, at his shop near the Temple Church], ǂc [between 1669 and 1687]
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<span style="font-family:"Courier New"">245 03 [Tutor to the violin]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Courier New"">260 [London] : ǂb [John Playford], ǂc [between 1669 and 1687]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#2E74B5">Deborah J Leslie (she/her) | Senior Cataloger | Folger Shakespeare Library | 201 East Capitol Street, S.E. Washington, DC 20003 |
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