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<p>I find myself, shockingly, in gentle disagreement with Deborah and John. <br>
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<p>I see a ship built from a kit, even if it sports some modifications (paint perhaps, or other decorations), as analogous to an assembled jigsaw puzzle. The ship may be vastly more complicated to assemble, but the assembler generally can't exercise much real creativity
at all, can she? The pieces are pre-cut and are supplied, along with instructions. The kit's designer and manufacturer seem to me much more responsible for its creative content than a person who follows the manufacturer's instructions in assembling it. Any
model builder who strays much, or at all, from such instructions will be sorry. <br>
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<p>Heck, now I think it's even analogous to a printed book. We don't see a bound copy of a machine press book as a collaboration between the author/printer and the bookbinder. The binder receives printed sheets, whose signatures serve as a set of instructions
somewhat analogous to those accompanying the model ship. The order of assembly is dictated, and woe to the binder who gets creative with the order of things inside her binding, however beautiful and unique that binding may be. <br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 9, 2020 1:32 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Georgia",serif; color:#993366">I'm glad John and Dave spoke up, because I also had the original thought that the assembler was the primary creator and was a little surprised by initial responses.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#2E74B5">Deborah J Leslie (she/her) | Senior Cataloger | Folger Shakespeare Library | 201 East Capitol Street, S.E. Washington, DC 20003 |
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Van Kleeck,David A<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 9 January, 2020 12:32<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] a model ship</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#2F5597">This is fascinating!</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#2F5597">My initial thoughts echo John's. It struck me that the relationship between the model kit and the assembler come the closest to something along the lines of
RDA's relationship designators for agents associated with a work. Somewhere in the neighborhood of:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#2F5597">Compiler - "<i>An agent responsible for creating a new work … by selecting, arranging, aggregating, and editing data, information, etc.</i>" (in this case,
model parts) </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#2F5597">Composer - "<i>Adaptation of another … work to form a distinct alteration, paraphrasing a work or creating a work in the general style of …, or creating a work
that is based on …, is included</i>."</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#2F5597">Director - "<i>An agent responsible for the general management and supervision of …</i>" (in this case, building a ship model).
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#2F5597">This is especially true if one thinks about it in terms of the relationship between a film script and a film. Just as a director determines what scenes are
shot when, or how a given scene is depicted, the model assembler determines how the parts of the model are assembled, what colors to paint them, etc.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#2F5597">I also agree with John about treating "the assembler as the primary creator, as he/she is the one who modified the original kit to create this new work."</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#2F5597">I see both viewpoints however, and look forward to the resulting consensus.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#2F5597">Dave</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">David Van Kleeck</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> DCRM-L <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Attig, John C<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 9, 2020 11:23 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] a model ship</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">I hate to oppose an emerging consensus, but …</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">It seems to me that your copy of the model kit has been modified in such a substantial way that it constitutes a new work. I just don’t see that an unassembled kit and the
assembled model can be considered expressions of the same work.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">In my opinion, the work that you have is a collaboration between the manufacturer of the model and the assembler of this copy. In this sort of collaboration, I don’t think
that there are any hard-and-fast rules about who is considered the primary creator, but I would be tempted to treat the assembler as the primary creator, as he/she is the one who modified the original kit to create this new work.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I would indeed treat the original ship as a related work, but for purely pragmatic reasons, I think I would be tempted to treat this as a subject relationship.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thanks for sharing this fascinating conundrum with us, Francis.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">John Attig</span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jessica Janecki<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 9, 2020 11:06 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] a model ship</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">To piggyback on what Julie said, I think your situation with the assembled and augmented model is rather similar to an extra-illustrated copy of a book. 9 times
out of 10 I catalog an extra illustrated copy first as what the “base” book was and then add as many local notes and tracings as needed to explain the extra-illustration of our copy. However, sometimes institutional needs tip the balance and I need to catalog
it as a manuscript or mixed material collection created by the extra-illustrator in order to emphasize their role. Also, occasionally the extra-illustration is so transformative that I need to emphasize the uniqueness and originality of our copy.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julie Moore<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 9, 2020 10:57 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] a model ship</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am a generalist Special Collections cataloger, far away from the HMS Victory. As such, I would catalog it as the model from the manufacturer. That way, the MARC record is useable by other institutions in OCLC. You can always add local
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would be very thankful that it came assembled!!! <span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">
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On Jan 9, 2020, at 7:13 AM, Jane Wickenden <<a href="mailto:jane.wickenden@zen.co.uk">jane.wickenden@zen.co.uk</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, 9 Jan 2020, 14:48 Lapka, Francis, <<a href="mailto:francis.lapka@yale.edu">francis.lapka@yale.edu</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">I have at my desk an assembled model of HMS Victory, similar to this:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">I’m debating whether to describe it as primarily the work of the kit manufacturer (a Polish firm) or as the work of the local fellow who assembled it, with some modifications and supplements
to the manufacturer’s design. Put another way: should I treat this as a multiple, or as a unique object? (If
<i>unassembled</i>, the decision would be easy.) The decision affects a host of fields, including main entry, place, and date.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">On a less complicated note: Does anyone know of an established relationship designator to convey the role of model maker? I haven’t found one.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">I’m keen to hear your perspectives.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">-Francis</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">(I recognize that this a special collections cataloging question, not strictly DCRM.)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif">Yale Center for British Art</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif">203-432-9672 ·
</span><a href="mailto:francis.lapka@yale.edu" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif">francis.lapka@yale.edu</span></a></p>
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