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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I would think that if you are treating it as a new work (which I totally get given the level of changes made by the model builder), then the model builder should
be the creator.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Jessica Janecki<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> DCRM-L <dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lapka, Francis<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 10, 2020 9:24 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] a model ship<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">All responses in this thread have been thoughtful. Thank you!
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">Here’s a photo of the model.
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">I started to doubt my instinct to treat it as a work of the kit maker upon reading the model maker’s bibliography of books consulted (“… its [the model’s] realization and supplementation
were materially assisted by reference to …”). I now lean towards describing the assembled model as a unique object. That the completed model is a different entity than the kit as issued is most evident when considering a field such as dimensions. It’s at least
a different manifestation; I think a new work, as well. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">Folks have made interesting comparisons to other categories of material, and I’ll add my own. The model maker’s interpretation of the kit manufacturer’s design is somewhat akin
to a performer’s interpretation of a musical score (i.e., a performance work). For the latter, I believe the composer is routinely treated as main entry.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">With that in mind, I’m inclined to proceed as follows, details to be filled in:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">110 2# $a Shipyard. <This is the kit maker.><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">245 10 $a Model of HMS Victory.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">264 #0 $c 2018. <This is the date the model was assembled><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">300 ## $a 1 model : $b paper, wood, brass, thread ; $c 78 x 109 x 37 cm <dimensions of the model as assembled><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">[…]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">500 ## $a [Something like:] The model was assembled in 2018 by [model maker’s name], with modifications and supplements to the kit maker’s original
design. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">[…]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">700 1# $a [model maker’s name], $e ???.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">Francis<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> DCRM-L <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Stephen A Skuce<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 9, 2020 2:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] a model ship<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:black">I find myself, shockingly, in gentle disagreement with Deborah and John. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">I see a ship built from a kit, even if it sports some modifications (paint perhaps, or other decorations), as analogous to an assembled jigsaw puzzle. The ship may be vastly more complicated to assemble, but the assembler generally
can't exercise much real creativity at all, can she? The pieces are pre-cut and are supplied, along with instructions. The kit's designer and manufacturer seem to me much more responsible for its creative content than a person who follows the manufacturer's
instructions in assembling it. Any model builder who strays much, or at all, from such instructions will be sorry. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">Heck, now I think it's even analogous to a printed book. We don't see a bound copy of a machine press book as a collaboration between the author/printer and the bookbinder. The binder receives printed sheets, whose signatures serve
as a set of instructions somewhat analogous to those accompanying the model ship. The order of assembly is dictated, and woe to the binder who gets creative with the order of things inside her binding, however beautiful and unique that binding may be. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">Stephen Skuce<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">MIT Libraries (retired)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> DCRM-L <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>>
on behalf of Deborah J. Leslie <<a href="mailto:DJLeslie@FOLGER.edu">DJLeslie@FOLGER.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 9, 2020 1:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'DCRM Users' Group'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] a model ship</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#993366">I'm glad John and Dave spoke up, because I also had the original thought that the assembler was the primary creator and was a little surprised by initial responses.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#2E74B5">Deborah J Leslie (she/her) | Senior Cataloger | Folger Shakespeare Library | 201 East Capitol Street, S.E. Washington, DC 20003 |
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121"> DCRM-L <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Van Kleeck,David A<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 9 January, 2020 12:32<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] a model ship</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#2F5597">This is fascinating!</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#2F5597">My initial thoughts echo John's. It struck me that the relationship between the model kit and the assembler come the closest to something along the lines of RDA's
relationship designators for agents associated with a work. Somewhere in the neighborhood of:</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#2F5597">Compiler - "<i>An agent responsible for creating a new work … by selecting, arranging, aggregating, and editing data, information, etc.</i>" (in this case, model
parts) </span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#2F5597">Composer - "<i>Adaptation of another … work to form a distinct alteration, paraphrasing a work or creating a work in the general style of …, or creating a work
that is based on …, is included</i>."</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#2F5597">Director - "<i>An agent responsible for the general management and supervision of …</i>" (in this case, building a ship model).
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#2F5597">This is especially true if one thinks about it in terms of the relationship between a film script and a film. Just as a director determines what scenes are shot
when, or how a given scene is depicted, the model assembler determines how the parts of the model are assembled, what colors to paint them, etc.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#2F5597">I also agree with John about treating "the assembler as the primary creator, as he/she is the one who modified the original kit to create this new work."</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#2F5597">I see both viewpoints however, and look forward to the resulting consensus.</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#2F5597">Dave</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">David Van Kleeck</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Chair, Cataloging and Discovery Services</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">University of Florida</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Attig, John C<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 9, 2020 11:23 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] a model ship</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I hate to oppose an emerging consensus, but …</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">It seems to me that your copy of the model kit has been modified in such a substantial way that it constitutes a new work. I just don’t see that an unassembled
kit and the assembled model can be considered expressions of the same work.</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">In my opinion, the work that you have is a collaboration between the manufacturer of the model and the assembler of this copy. In this sort of collaboration,
I don’t think that there are any hard-and-fast rules about who is considered the primary creator, but I would be tempted to treat the assembler as the primary creator, as he/she is the one who modified the original kit to create this new work.</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">I would indeed treat the original ship as a related work, but for purely pragmatic reasons, I think I would be tempted to treat this as a subject relationship.</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">Thanks for sharing this fascinating conundrum with us, Francis.</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">John Attig</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jessica Janecki<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 9, 2020 11:06 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] a model ship</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">To piggyback on what Julie said, I think your situation with the assembled and augmented model is rather similar to an extra-illustrated copy of a book. 9 times
out of 10 I catalog an extra illustrated copy first as what the “base” book was and then add as many local notes and tracings as needed to explain the extra-illustration of our copy. However, sometimes institutional needs tip the balance and I need to catalog
it as a manuscript or mixed material collection created by the extra-illustrator in order to emphasize their role. Also, occasionally the extra-illustration is so transformative that I need to emphasize the uniqueness and originality of our copy.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Jessica Janecki</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121"> DCRM-L <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julie Moore<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 9, 2020 10:57 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] a model ship</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#212121">I am a generalist Special Collections cataloger, far away from the HMS Victory. As such, I would catalog it as the model from the manufacturer. That way, the MARC record is useable by other institutions in OCLC.
You can always add local notes and added entries for your model assembler. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#212121">I would be very thankful that it came assembled!!!
</span><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif;color:#212121">🙂</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#212121">Julie Moore <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On Jan 9, 2020, at 7:13 AM, Jane Wickenden <<a href="mailto:jane.wickenden@zen.co.uk">jane.wickenden@zen.co.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#212121">I'd be inclined to treat the kit originator as the main author and the model builder as an editor, the resulting Victory being a sort of "edition" of the kit.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#212121">But what an interesting thing to be cataloguing!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#212121">(who is across the harbour from HMS Victory the original)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#212121">On Thu, 9 Jan 2020, 14:48 Lapka, Francis, <<a href="mailto:francis.lapka@yale.edu">francis.lapka@yale.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#212121">I have at my desk an assembled model of HMS Victory, similar to this:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#212121">I’m debating whether to describe it as primarily the work of the kit manufacturer (a Polish firm) or as the work of the local fellow who assembled it, with some modifications and supplements
to the manufacturer’s design. Put another way: should I treat this as a multiple, or as a unique object? (If
<i>unassembled</i>, the decision would be easy.) The decision affects a host of fields, including main entry, place, and date.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#212121">On a less complicated note: Does anyone know of an established relationship designator to convey the role of model maker? I haven’t found one.</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#212121">I’m keen to hear your perspectives.</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#212121">-Francis</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#212121">(I recognize that this a special collections cataloging question, not strictly DCRM.)</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:#212121">Francis Lapka</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:#212121">Senior Catalogue Librarian</span></i><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:#212121">Department of Rare Books and Manuscripts</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:#212121">Yale Center for British Art</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:#212121">203-432-9672 ·
</span><span style="color:#212121"><a href="mailto:francis.lapka@yale.edu" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif">francis.lapka@yale.edu</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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