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<p>Hi Deborah,</p>
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<p>Thanks so much for the reply! And thank you for pointing out the Google Books version. Once the library has re-opened and I am back at work in person, I will double-check our copy against the digitized copy. </p>
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<p>And thank you for pointing out the example where you used a plus sign in a signature statement. That is good to know that can be used, if a copy is incomplete. </p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 3, 2020 3:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'DCRM Users' Group'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Question about missing pages at end of book</font>
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<span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif; color:#1F497D">Hello Angela and everyone. Catching up on email backlog, and it doesn't appear that anyone has answered this.</span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif; color:#1F497D">There's an LC record in OCLC of a perfect copy ending with [74] p. See#</span>
<span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif; color:#1F497D">6734165 ( Also <a href="https://catalog.loc.gov/vwebv/holdingsInfo?bibId=20478559" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;" id="LPlnk420757" previewremoved="true">
https://catalog.loc.gov/vwebv/holdingsInfo?bibId=20478559</a>.) This edition has also been digitized</span>
<span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif; color:#1F497D"><a href="https://bit.ly/2RbenCW" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;" id="LPlnk673490" previewremoved="true">https://bit.ly/2RbenCW</a>. From your description, it sounds like you
have all but the final leaf. You would of course describe the perfect copy in pagination and signatures and make a copy note about your copy's imperfection.</span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif; color:#1F497D">However, if you are basing a description on an imperfect copy in which details of the perfect copy isn't known, you can use a plus sign at the end of the signature statement just as you do the pagination
statement. Here's what I did in such a case: </span><a href="http://hamnet.folger.edu/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?BBID=354336" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;" id="LPlnk652665" previewremoved="true">http://hamnet.folger.edu/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?BBID=354336</a><span style="color:#1F497D">
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt; color:#2E74B5">Deborah J Leslie (she/her) | Senior Cataloger | Folger Shakespeare Library | 201 East Capitol Street, S.E. Washington, DC 20003 |
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<b>From:</b> DCRM-L <dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jones, Angela<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 1 November, 2019 12:42<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] Question about missing pages at end of book</p>
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Hello,</p>
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The SMU Law Library is cataloging a book published in 1662, <i>Plaidoyez de Mre. Claude Expilly, Chevalier, Conseiller du Roy an son conseil d'eětat, & presidant au Parlemant de Grenoble …</i></p>
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There seem to be one or more missing pages at the end of our copy of this book. It probably isn’t too many; the end of the book is an index and the last entries are in the Vs. The last page of our copy of does have a catchword at the bottom of the page, and
does not include “Finis” or other indication that it is the end of the book. </p>
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I know that according to DCRMB 5B12, we should record the last numbered or last unnumbered page followed by “+ pages”, along with a note that the description is based on an incomplete copy. Based on this rule, I believe that my 300 field subfield $a should
be: [24], 580, [74+] pages </p>
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However, I’m not certain how to reflect these missing pages in the signature statement. I don’t see any equivalent notes in chapter 7 about missing signatures, unless I am missing something. Do I simply record what I have, and then make sure that the note regarding
missing page(s) at the end includes the fact that there may be missing leaves in the last gathering? Or is the basic note for missing page(s) sufficient?
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Thank you in advance for any advice or suggestions!</p>
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