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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">That’s huge paper—It would have to be, what?, 80cm wide for a double fold to leave a length dimension of 39 cm. I can see why you thought it was a folio.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#2E74B5">Deborah J Leslie, M.A., M.L.S. | Senior Cataloger | Folger Shakespeare Library | 201 East Capitol Street, S.E. Washington, DC 20003 |
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> DCRM-L <dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu> <b>On Behalf Of
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 15 November, 2021 12:12<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] odd index signatures<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, horizontal chainlines and the leaves are roughly 39 x 24 cm.
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 11:05 AM Deborah J. Leslie <<a href="mailto:DJLeslie@folger.edu">DJLeslie@folger.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">Horizontal chainlines? What are the leaf dimensions?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#5E327C">Deborah J. Leslie, MA, MLS | Senior Cataloger | Folger Shakespeare Library | 201 East Capitol St., SE, Washington, DC 20003 |
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniel Axmacher<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 15, 2021 10:25<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] odd index signatures<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Yes, I've had a difficult time finding the sewing. After taking another look, I think it could be a big quarto rather than a folio. I've found slivers of watermarks in the gutters
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 2:50 PM Deborah J. Leslie <<a href="mailto:DJLeslie@folger.edu" target="_blank">DJLeslie@folger.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">I’ve taken a look at the facsimile, and can make neither heads nor tails of the signature pattern. Is the volume bound too
tightly to see where center sewing might be located? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#2E74B5">Deborah J Leslie, M.A., M.L.S. | Senior Cataloger | Folger Shakespeare Library | 201 East Capitol Street, S.E. Washington, DC 20003 |
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniel Axmacher<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 8 November, 2021 10:48<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] odd index signatures<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I've run into another book with some confusing signatures and I'm hoping the listserv might be able to help.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">In n the 10th volume of Desiderii Erasmi Roterodami Opera omnia, printed by Pieter Van der Aa in Leiden in 1706, the index is signed on every page as follows: a1-a21, b1-b6, c1-c30,
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Volumes 9 and 10 in the Athenaeum's set are bound together, but otherwise seem to be in typical folio format, paginated and signed continuously in gatherings of 4 up until the index.
The final leaf preceding the index is 6B1. I think it might be a singleton, but I've had a difficult time puzzling out the actual structure from the sewing and watermarks. I'm not really sure what to make of the odd signatures, or how to note them.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">For reference, it looks like there's a republished facsimile copy up on HathiTrust that replicates the signatures.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Does anyone have any insight into what's going on with these signatures or advice on how to proceed?
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks in advance,<o:p></o:p></p>
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