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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">I have a more specific memory of the introduction of the word "entry" in the SCF. It was meant to parallel "page" in the 510$c, which is used for resources without
specific entry numbers. Intellectually satisfying, perhaps, but the word "entry" preceding an entry number added to already-long citations without adding any information. It was formally dropped.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">To Nina's observation that records containing "entry" in the 510 were coded dcrmb: they are not contradictory. There is nothing in dcrmb that specifies which citation
system is to be used. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">Considerations around the source coding of individual records (say, dcrmr) and the state of those rules at any given time is only going to become more complex with
DCRMR as an integrating resource. This is a good time to be thinking about how to ameliorate those complexities.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#5E327C">Deborah J. Leslie, MA, MLS | Senior Cataloger | Folger Shakespeare Library | 201 East Capitol St., SE, Washington, DC 20003 |
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#5E327C">| Opinions her own</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> DCRM-L <dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Randal S. BRANDT<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 24, 2022 17:47<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] spotting a preface before subfield c in 510s<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Nina,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It is an option in the new SCF to use the word "entry". See Working Principles, Numeration, point B: <a href="https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/Eoc3C1wpJMTZm4ptLYSOw?domain=rbms.info/">https://rbms.info/scf/working-principles/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I seem to remember that it was either required or strongly encouraged to include that term when SCF first came out. Clearly that stance has been softened since then. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Randy<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 2:30 PM Schneider, Nina <<a href="mailto:nschneider@humnet.ucla.edu">nschneider@humnet.ucla.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Recently, I noticed that a few OCLC records coded DCRMB in the 040$e have the word “entry” immediately following the subfield c in the citation/reference note.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">So, instead of this:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">510 4_ English short title catalogue, ǂc S95920<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I’m seeing this:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">510 4_ English short title catalogue, ǂc entry S95920<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Admittedly, I haven’t been following recent updates with BSC, but I did look at the MARC website at LC and they don’t prescribe the use of the word “entry” and there’s no mention
of its use on the RBMS Standard Citation Forms website.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Perhaps this preface is helpful to someone reading the MARC record, but it seems incorrect from a machine-readable point-of-view. Is there a new policy about adding “entry” to subfield
c?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks!!<o:p></o:p></p>
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