<div dir="ltr">Dear Jacqueline,<div><br></div><div>See the Morgan Library & Museum's comments below. Apologies for the last-minute contribution. Please let me know if I need to use a different channel to submit our comments.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you,</div><div><br></div><div>Maria Oldal<br>Manager of Collections Information and Library Systems<br>The Morgan Library & Museum<br>225 Madison Avenue<br>New York, NY 10016<br>Tel: 212-590-0382<br>Email: <a href="mailto:oldalm@themorgan.org" target="_blank">oldalm@themorgan.org</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Response to MARC Discussion Paper No. 2022-DP09</div><div><br></div><div><p style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">The
Morgan Library & Museum is very much interested in the direction of this
discussion as it has extensive provenance data in its bibliographic records in
the 561, 562, 655, and 700/710 fields. The Morgan will continue cataloging
along the lines of Option 1 because of current system display limitations and
because of the substantial investment of recording provenance information in
that structure. </span></p>

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<p style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">The
Morgan, however, is intrigued by exploring a more standardized presentation of
provenance information with an eye towards future interoperability of data as
outlined in Option 4, and offers the following comments:</span></p>

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<p style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">As
a contributor to the Material Evidence in Incunabula (MEI) project, the Morgan
has experience in parsing free-text provenance information (recorded in the 561
note field) into highly structured data. When detailed and unambiguous information
is available, parsing is easy and potentially useful in a shared environment.
The process becomes challenging when the free-text provenance note expresses
uncertainty, conjecture, variants, summaries of external research, or other
forms of expertizing that is the raw material of further research. Structured
information limits this in two ways: 1. some information simply does not fit
into it; 2. clear-cut presentation of data confers a level of certainty
that may have been lacking in the free-text expression.</span></p>

<p style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> </span></p>

<p style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">As
repositories with large holdings that have extensive provenance information
move their data online, the online presentation supplants information formerly
presented in printed collection catalogs. Collection management necessitates the availability of free-text provenance information. Highly
structured and authorized data elements facilitate machine-interpretation of
data. They, however, do not replace the human-readable interpretive
presentation of the same information. If the MARC21 format reduces the
presentation of provenance information to structured data only, an alternate
data repository/system is needed to provide human-interpretable provenance
information to the research community.</span></p>

<p style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> </span></p>

<p style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Option
4 and its examples lack any reference to a continued presence of a free-text
provenance summary field. The Morgan suggests the exploration of Option 4
combined with retaining the 561 provenance note.</span></p>

<p style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Also,
the proposed structure of 361 needs to incorporate the control subfield $3 -
Materials specified, which is defined in 561.</span></p>

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<p style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">While
the Morgan is ready to explore and potentially adopt the repetition of
provenance data in structured form in order to facilitate machine
interpretation of this data, it will continue to provide to the research
community a free-text provenance note in the 561 field in MARC21 or in a
designated place in a future data format.</span></p></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 11:00 AM Parascandola, Jacqueline L <<a href="mailto:jpara@upenn.edu" target="_blank">jpara@upenn.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">





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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Dear all,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">The MARC Advisory Committee (MAC) has submitted the following proposals and discussion papers for consideration from the cataloging community. We will
 be discussing and voting on these papers at the MAC Annual Meetings to be held on June 28^th-30^th. Please review the documents and provide feedback by June 20^th. I need to submit any comments to MAC by the end of day on June
 21^st. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">I think the following may be of specific interest to the DCRM community; but feel free to comment on all of them if you choose:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Discussion Paper No. 2022-DP07: Adding Subfield $3 to Field 041 in the
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">MARC 21 Bibliographic Format</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.loc.gov/marc/mac/2022/2022-dp07.html__;!!IBzWLUs!TAGtv3GgugJq_67K4KhDZL1xLrAqw_9ivceN-P5n428bmMRxKWrNMCqaf2rP6LtM_ag3HDhUbwmA$" title="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.loc.gov/marc/mac/2022/2022-dp07.html__;!!IBzWLUs!TAGtv3GgugJq_67K4KhDZL1xLrAqw_9ivceN-P5n428bmMRxKWrNMCqaf2rP6LtM_ag3HDhUbwmA$" target="_blank">www.loc.gov/marc/mac/2022/2022-dp07.html</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Discussion Paper No. 2022-DP09: Defining a Field for Standardized Provenance
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Information in the MARC 21 Bibliographic, Holdings, and Authority Formats</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.loc.gov/marc/mac/2022/2022-dp09.html__;!!IBzWLUs!TAGtv3GgugJq_67K4KhDZL1xLrAqw_9ivceN-P5n428bmMRxKWrNMCqaf2rP6LtM_ag3HKn2YcQI$" title="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.loc.gov/marc/mac/2022/2022-dp09.html__;!!IBzWLUs!TAGtv3GgugJq_67K4KhDZL1xLrAqw_9ivceN-P5n428bmMRxKWrNMCqaf2rP6LtM_ag3HKn2YcQI$" target="_blank">www.loc.gov/marc/mac/2022/2022-dp09.html</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Discussion Paper No. 2022-DP10: Defining a New Subfield in Field 264 to
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Record an Unparsed Statement in the MARC 21 Bibliographic Format</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.loc.gov/marc/mac/2022/2022-dp10.html__;!!IBzWLUs!TAGtv3GgugJq_67K4KhDZL1xLrAqw_9ivceN-P5n428bmMRxKWrNMCqaf2rP6LtM_ag3HPS0J7Y5$" title="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.loc.gov/marc/mac/2022/2022-dp10.html__;!!IBzWLUs!TAGtv3GgugJq_67K4KhDZL1xLrAqw_9ivceN-P5n428bmMRxKWrNMCqaf2rP6LtM_ag3HPS0J7Y5$" target="_blank">www.loc.gov/marc/mac/2022/2022-dp10.html</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">PROPOSALS</span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Proposal No. 2022-07: Modernization of Field 856 Second Indicator and
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Subfield $3 in the MARC 21 Formats</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.loc.gov/marc/mac/2022/2022-07.html__;!!IBzWLUs!TAGtv3GgugJq_67K4KhDZL1xLrAqw_9ivceN-P5n428bmMRxKWrNMCqaf2rP6LtM_ag3HB5mY2bg$" title="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.loc.gov/marc/mac/2022/2022-07.html__;!!IBzWLUs!TAGtv3GgugJq_67K4KhDZL1xLrAqw_9ivceN-P5n428bmMRxKWrNMCqaf2rP6LtM_ag3HB5mY2bg$" target="_blank">www.loc.gov/marc/mac/2022/2022-07.html</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Proposal No. 2022-08: Recording Persistent Identifiers and File Formats
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">in Field 856 of the MARC 21 Formats</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.loc.gov/marc/mac/2022/2022-08.html__;!!IBzWLUs!TAGtv3GgugJq_67K4KhDZL1xLrAqw_9ivceN-P5n428bmMRxKWrNMCqaf2rP6LtM_ag3HNbWWFTk$" title="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.loc.gov/marc/mac/2022/2022-08.html__;!!IBzWLUs!TAGtv3GgugJq_67K4KhDZL1xLrAqw_9ivceN-P5n428bmMRxKWrNMCqaf2rP6LtM_ag3HNbWWFTk$" target="_blank">www.loc.gov/marc/mac/2022/2022-08.html</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">DISCUSSION PAPERS</span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Discussion Paper No. 2022-DP06: Defining a New Field to Record Electronic
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Archive Location and Access in the MARC 21 Formats</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.loc.gov/marc/mac/2022/2022-dp06.html__;!!IBzWLUs!TAGtv3GgugJq_67K4KhDZL1xLrAqw_9ivceN-P5n428bmMRxKWrNMCqaf2rP6LtM_ag3HIkKPMB_$" title="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.loc.gov/marc/mac/2022/2022-dp06.html__;!!IBzWLUs!TAGtv3GgugJq_67K4KhDZL1xLrAqw_9ivceN-P5n428bmMRxKWrNMCqaf2rP6LtM_ag3HIkKPMB_$" target="_blank">www.loc.gov/marc/mac/2022/2022-dp06.html</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Discussion Paper No. 2022-DP07: Adding Subfield $3 to Field 041 in the
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">MARC 21 Bibliographic Format</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.loc.gov/marc/mac/2022/2022-dp07.html__;!!IBzWLUs!TAGtv3GgugJq_67K4KhDZL1xLrAqw_9ivceN-P5n428bmMRxKWrNMCqaf2rP6LtM_ag3HDhUbwmA$" title="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.loc.gov/marc/mac/2022/2022-dp07.html__;!!IBzWLUs!TAGtv3GgugJq_67K4KhDZL1xLrAqw_9ivceN-P5n428bmMRxKWrNMCqaf2rP6LtM_ag3HDhUbwmA$" target="_blank">www.loc.gov/marc/mac/2022/2022-dp07.html</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Discussion Paper No. 2022-DP08: Adding Subfields $0 and $1 to Fields 720
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">and 653 in the MARC 21 Bibliographic Format</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.loc.gov/marc/mac/2022/2022-dp08.html__;!!IBzWLUs!TAGtv3GgugJq_67K4KhDZL1xLrAqw_9ivceN-P5n428bmMRxKWrNMCqaf2rP6LtM_ag3HN2qed-4$" title="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.loc.gov/marc/mac/2022/2022-dp08.html__;!!IBzWLUs!TAGtv3GgugJq_67K4KhDZL1xLrAqw_9ivceN-P5n428bmMRxKWrNMCqaf2rP6LtM_ag3HN2qed-4$" target="_blank">www.loc.gov/marc/mac/2022/2022-dp08.html</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Discussion Paper No. 2022-DP09: Defining a Field for Standardized Provenance
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Information in the MARC 21 Bibliographic, Holdings, and Authority Formats</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.loc.gov/marc/mac/2022/2022-dp09.html__;!!IBzWLUs!TAGtv3GgugJq_67K4KhDZL1xLrAqw_9ivceN-P5n428bmMRxKWrNMCqaf2rP6LtM_ag3HKn2YcQI$" title="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.loc.gov/marc/mac/2022/2022-dp09.html__;!!IBzWLUs!TAGtv3GgugJq_67K4KhDZL1xLrAqw_9ivceN-P5n428bmMRxKWrNMCqaf2rP6LtM_ag3HKn2YcQI$" target="_blank">www.loc.gov/marc/mac/2022/2022-dp09.html</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Discussion Paper No. 2022-DP10: Defining a New Subfield in Field 264 to
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Record an Unparsed Statement in the MARC 21 Bibliographic Format</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Thank you.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Jackie Parascandola</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">RBMS Liaison to the MARC Advisory Committee</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><a href="mailto:jpara@upenn.edu" title="mailto:jpara@upenn.edu" target="_blank">jpara@upenn.edu</a>
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