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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">What is the rationale of dividing provenance information between two fields? How does it help the reader? On our side, what are the issues of library management systems that dictate its advisability?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">It springs to my mind that the main purpose to divide between two fields would be for information that is part of the history of how readers have interacted with a book but don’t allow us to identify
the reader – e.g. “Copy is extensively annotated in a seventeenth-century hand”; “Light pencilled marginal markings and underlinings in the preface”: the kind of thing some of us have oscillated between defining as provenance and defining as “other copy-specific”,
which is not at issue here. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Extra copy-specific information, like imperfections, “bound with” notes, and an edition number remain well apart. If we’re dividing information into separate fields, would it make more sense to divide
the types the information that go into a 590?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I hope this doesn’t come across as challenging. It isn’t meant to be: it’s intended as an impetus to think, and a desire to know.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Karen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dr Karen Attar<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Curator of Rare Books and University Art<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Senate House Library, University of London<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Senate House<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Malet St<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">London WC1E 7HU<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> DCRM-L <dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lapka, Francis<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 13 July 2022 18:16<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] MARC 561 and 562<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Hi all. As my repository considers application of standardized fields for provenance notes (abandoning 590s), I’m pondering the distinction between MARC fields 561 and 562. I wonder if the following
summary is correct:</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">MARC 561 = RDA and DCRMR's custodial history of item. It does not include reference to markings/evidence. Example, from DCRMR:</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Library copy: Part of King George III’s Library. Donated to the nation by King George IV (1762-1830)</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo7"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">MARC 562 = RDA and DCRMR's modification of item. It includes reference to markings/evidence. Example, from DCRMR:</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Library copy bears stamps and label of St. Ignatius College; signature on flyleaf of N.
<span class="spelle">Blagdon</span>, dated 1813.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">The MARC-RDA pairing is based on RDA’s element reference, but I feel uncertainty because I can’t remember seeing examples of provenance markings (bookplates, autographs, and so on) in field 562,
and the <a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.loc.gov%2Fmarc%2Fbibliographic%2Fbd562.html&data=05%7C01%7CKaren.Attar%40london.ac.uk%7Cff4c052a82c04f73660608da64f3570e%7C185280ba7a0042ea940819eafd13552e%7C0%7C0%7C637933293565282097%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ttqeOUsY5g6hbrhImOihID0gDABYSlZLErASgsulG5M%3D&reserved=0">
MARC guidance</a> isn’t as clear as I’d like. </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Is this 561 versus 562 distinction correct? If so, is it useful? Do other repositories use the two fields in this manner?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Thanks,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Francis</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:YaleNew">Francis Lapka</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:YaleNew">Senior Catalog Librarian</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:YaleNew">Department of Rare Books and Manuscripts</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:YaleNew">Yale Center for British Art</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:YaleNew">203-432-9672 ·
</span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbritishart.yale.edu%2F&data=05%7C01%7CKaren.Attar%40london.ac.uk%7Cff4c052a82c04f73660608da64f3570e%7C185280ba7a0042ea940819eafd13552e%7C0%7C0%7C637933293565282097%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=IKu9xBFXmmrvi1RnhTaKIpWx6wMqpnpgZIL7mZPtCE0%3D&reserved=0"><span style="font-family:YaleNew">britishart.yale.edu</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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