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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks, Brenna and Lauren. I’d like to develop my thoughts a bit on this.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">As I said, linked data is for machine use of data, and id.loc.gov prioritizes data for machine use. It’s great (and surprising!) that LC added a hierarchical view;
in the long run, I don’t think we want to rely on LC for more than data hosting and basic functionality.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">So, linked data is for programs to manipulate. What I’m thinking about are ways to get that data into another program that can present it for human use. I have no
idea what’s available or feasible; maybe nothing quite fits the bill at this time. For now, maybe something as simple as a google doc with expanded hierarchy and links to the id.loc term records is all that can be managed.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">Alternate output formats are available; I’m not technologically adept enough to know whether any of those currently available formats might be feasible for a different
presentation. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="http://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/rbmscv/cv00722.rdf">RDF/XML (MADS and SKOS)</a><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<a href="http://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/rbmscv/cv00722.nt">N-Triples (MADS and SKOS)</a><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<a href="http://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/rbmscv/cv00722.json">JSON (MADS/RDF and SKOS/RDF)</a><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<a href="http://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/rbmscv/cv00722.madsrdf.rdf">MADS - RDF/XML</a><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<a href="http://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/rbmscv/cv00722.madsrdf.nt">MADS - N-Triples</a><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<a href="http://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/rbmscv/cv00722.madsrdf.json">MADS/RDF - JSON</a><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<a href="http://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/rbmscv/cv00722.skos.rdf">SKOS - RDF/XML</a><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<a href="http://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/rbmscv/cv00722.skos.nt">SKOS - N-Triples</a><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<a href="http://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/rbmscv/cv00722.skos.json">SKOS - JSON</a><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">What I’m NOT suggesting is that CVEG try to figure that out. They deserve much applause and a Huge Breather after this Huge Accomplishment
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#5E327C">Deborah J. Leslie, MA, MLS (she/her) | Senior Cataloger | Folger Shakespeare Library | 201 East Capitol St., SE, Washington, DC 20003 | 202.675-0369 |
<a href="mailto:djleslie@folger.edu"><span style="color:#0563C1">djleslie@folger.edu</span></a> | www.folger.edu</span><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> DCRM-L <dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Bychowski, Brenna<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 8, 2023 08:59<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Official Launch of RBMS Controlled Vocabulary for Rare Materials Cataloging<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Thank you all for your feedback on RBMS CVRMC; we are keeping a list of potential areas for future development.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">We knew when migrating to <a href="https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/sAdWCPNK3GfXgQNizlgTE?domain=id.loc.gov">
id.loc.gov</a> that we would not be able to maintain all the functionality from the RBMS website to which we are all accustomed, since we would be constrained by the functionality of
<a href="https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/sAdWCPNK3GfXgQNizlgTE?domain=id.loc.gov">
id.loc.gov</a>. When we shared the beta thesaurus for review last year, there was no hierarchical view at all, because that is not something
<a href="https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/sAdWCPNK3GfXgQNizlgTE?domain=id.loc.gov">
id.loc.gov</a> offered. There was, however, substantial feedback asking for a hierarchical view, and we shared that with LC. We were pleasantly surprised when Nate Trail, our liaison at LC’s Linked Data Service, was able to build the new hierarchical view for
the launch, and we are extremely grateful to him for doing so.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">While we will continue to share your feedback with LC, we cannot make any promises about what changes or future updates will be feasible on their end.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Best,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Brenna and Lauren</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Co-chairs, Controlled Vocabularies Editorial Group<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> DCRM-L <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Maxwell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 7, 2023 2:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Official Launch of RBMS Controlled Vocabulary for Rare Materials Cataloging<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sorry to sound ignorant, but is there a way to see the entire list in alphabetical order?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Robert L. Maxwell<br>
Ancient Languages and Special Collections Cataloger<br>
6728 Harold B. Lee Library<br>
Brigham Young University<br>
Provo, UT 84602<br>
(801)422-5568 <br>
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"We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine ourselves to the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow, 1842.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> DCRM-L <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Deborah J. Leslie<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 7, 2023 10:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Official Launch of RBMS Controlled Vocabulary for Rare Materials Cataloging<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">Congratulations!!! The project—integrated thesauri—has been on the table since the mid-1990’s. It’s wonderful to see it realized; many years, enormous talent, and
much sweat equity has gone into producing RBMSCV. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">Linked data is designed for machine links; as John points out, this format isn’t particularly user-friendly. For example, I expanded a number of terms, clicked on
one to see its entry, navigated back to the page and everything was contracted again. Does anyone know of an output that would make expanded hierarchies easier to view?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#1F497D">Deborah<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#5E327C">Deborah J. Leslie, MA, MLS (she/her) | Senior Cataloger | Folger Shakespeare Library | 201 East Capitol St., SE, Washington, DC 20003 | 202.675-0369 |
<a href="mailto:djleslie@folger.edu"><span style="color:#0563C1">djleslie@folger.edu</span></a> |
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> DCRM-L <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>JOHN LANCASTER<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 6, 2023 12:48<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM List <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Official Launch of RBMS Controlled Vocabulary for Rare Materials Cataloging<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks, Brenna, found it - I wish one didn’t have to individually click each broader term to get to the specific term desired.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mar 6, 2023, at 12:28 PM, Bychowski, Brenna <<a href="mailto:brenna.bychowski@yale.edu">brenna.bychowski@yale.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Hi John,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">You made need to clear the cache and refresh the page to see the hierarchical view and the link to the relationship designators landing page.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Best,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Brenna</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>DCRM-L <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>JOHN
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, March 6, 2023 12:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>DCRM List <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [DCRM-L] Official Launch of RBMS Controlled Vocabulary for Rare Materials Cataloging<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I don’t find “Hierarchical scheme member view” on the page <a href="https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/iZdvCW6K31Hq30XSm4b6J?domain=nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com">https://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/rbmscv.html</a> - am I missing something?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It would also be useful to have a link to the full list of relationship designators on that page.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">John Lancaster<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mar 6, 2023, at 11:28 AM, Bychowski, Brenna <<a href="mailto:brenna.bychowski@yale.edu">brenna.bychowski@yale.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">On behalf of the RBMS Controlled Vocabularies Editorial Group, we are pleased to announce the official launch of the Controlled Vocabulary for Rare Materials Cataloging (RBMS
CVRMC). RBMS CVRMC is a linked data thesaurus that combines the former RBMS Thesauri (Genre, Binding, Type, Printing and Publishing, Paper, and Provenance) into a single resource with a redesigned structure. It is hosted by the Library of Congress Linked Data
Service at<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:BellMT"><a href="https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/iZdvCW6K31Hq30XSm4b6J?domain=nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1155CC">https://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/rbmscv.html</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">.
The RBMS Relationship Designators have also been migrated to LC LDS and can be found at<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:BellMT"><a href="https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/YeAqCYEY3ZilY5pS3nQ1w?domain=nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1155CC">https://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/rbmsrel.html</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">.
When using terms from RBMS CVRMC in a MARC record, the new code is $2 rbmscv. The six former thesauri are now officially deprecated.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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are particularly grateful to our fellow members of the Thesaurus Integration Subgroup, Amy Brown, Ryan Hildebrand, Jennifer Bradshaw, and Brian Stearns, who gave generously of their time, expertise, and good humor. We are also grateful for the support of Nate
Trail and LC’s Linked Data Service and their hosting and support of the RBMS CVRMC going forward. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">New terms. Many people noted the absence of terms of interest that are not currently available in the thesaurus. We encourage
the submission of new term proposals once our revised form is available.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Binding terms. There were several responses specifically related to available binding terms and its hierarchy. We are
open to the submission of additional binding terms, and we also want to emphasize that the available terms are specifically for use in indexing. They are not intended to limit or curtail binding descriptions made elsewhere in a catalog record.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Subdivisions. We approved the policy to not allow subdivisions for the new thesaurus back in 2019, and we continue to
support that decision. We understand that several institutions make heavy use of the terms that were specifically intended for subdivision, especially Typefaces. CVEG never maintained authorized subdivisions for any of those terms, so there was no standardization
or control coming from RBMS. Any control of subdivisions happening within a given institution is being done by that institution, and that work can continue going forward, using $2 local instead of an RBMS code.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Hierarchical view. Nate Trail and the Library of Congress Linked Data Service has designed a hierarchical browse/view
located on the landing page at<a href="https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/MMAxCZ6G7gHgvz8SN1OgS?domain=nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com"><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#0563C1"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1155CC">https://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/rbmscv.html</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>under
“Hierarchical scheme member view.”</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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