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Getty AAT does allow the term colophon for these statements occurring at the beginning of the book, but that is down towards the end of the 'scope note.'</div>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Georgia",serif; color:#1F497D">I have to disagree. Placement at the end of the text is the basic requirement for a colophon. If you try to call that a colophon in your catalog record, people
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ">Good morning</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ">Following my experience with Russian and Ukrainian titles (20<sup>th</sup> century), this sort of layout with an “ante-colophon” is not that uncommon – the books tend to have the table of contents at the back following
the European tradition.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ">I read, speak and write Russian, so my Czech is
<u>only an estimation</u>; but the publication data you have reads like and old-time “explicit,” which in my opinion, qualifies it as a colophon. It says, (para.) “This book was [issued, published] on the 20<sup>th</sup> day, [of June, I believe] 1937 …” which
is a publication statement. Should you call it a colophon? Probably not.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ">The “page facing title page” you propose is something I have used, or “printer’s statement.” I have used “first printed page” for fine print materials, as well (assuming it is).</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ">Printer’s statements typically do give the type of paper, font used (Bodoni),
<i>etc.</i> and the printer’s name (Československá grafická Unie). Here it also gives the publisher: “V… Z…” I’m not sure what Carter says about printer’s statement though.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ">I hope this helps a little.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ">=========== For what it’s worth ===========</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ">I see the Czech National Library views things this way too:</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt">Země na severu / Adolf Chaloupka</span></b></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt">Jazyk: Czech</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt">Informace o publikaci:
<span style="background:yellow">Praha : Vladimír Zikeš, 1937 (Československá grafická Unie)</span></span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt">Datum publikování: 1937</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt">OCLC: 85574405</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size:10.0pt">Systémové číslo: ncr.000747054</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">I have in hand a 1937 Czech book (image attached) with colophon-esque information facing the title page. Can this still be considered a colophon even though it’s not at the back of the book?
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">I’ve already consulted Carter, which emphasizes the placement as an essential feature…and yet this page seems to have all the trappings of a colophon: date, printer, number and process of illustrations, etc. If not a colophon, what else
would this be called? Just “page facing title page”?</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Any insight and/or opinions would be most welcome.</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Thank you all!</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Samantha Foster<span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"></span></p>
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