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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">One thing I’m curious about in this discussion – I don’t know anything about the various alternatives to OCLC being discussed, but the cataloging module in Connexion aside, the WorldCat database to which it
is connected contains half a <i>billion</i> bib records, What is the source of copy (if any) in the alternatives? Or is it being suggested that we go back to original cataloging for everything? I realize the half-billion figure includes lots of duplicates,
but I think the database is unmatched as a source of cataloging copy, and I assume you would lose that if your institution cancelled its OCLC subscription.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Also of note: OCLC is the place where we have to be to do NACO authority work (unless we’re at LC or BL or are a SkyRiver member); it is also the official repository for CONSER records so that’s where CONSER
work has to be done (again, unless we’re at LC – or maybe BL?)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Anyway, it seems like dropping out of OCLC has major implications for the whole cooperative cataloging notion.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Robert L. Maxwell<br>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Deborah J. Leslie via DCRM-L<br>
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<b>Cc:</b> Deborah J. Leslie <DJLeslie@FOLGER.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] OCLC cataloging subscription<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black">Dunno, Angela; I'd think trying to extract your holdings from the web would be ... inefficient, to say the least <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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M.A., M.L.S. | Senior Cataloger | Folger Shakespeare Library | <a href="mailto:djleslie@folger.edu">
<span style="color:#2E74B5">djleslie@folger.edu</span></a> | Opinions her own</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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on behalf of Angela R Cope via DCRM-L <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 14, 2024 11:19<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Angela R Cope <<a href="mailto:acope@uwm.edu">acope@uwm.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] OCLC cataloging subscription</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:black">This is such an interesting topic. I catalog with OCLC/Connexion but we had to get rid of the subscription portion that shows our holdings in worldcat. With that being said, any original
records my institution does still show up and if you dig far enough, you'll find our holdings and of course, for ILL our holdings are still accessible.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:black">But, another thing to think about is if you're putting your special collections into a digital portal that is searchable via google, well, just catalog that and skip the traditional catalog.
That's a somewhat radical idea but I mean, why not. Continue to use controlled vocabulary and cataloging/metadata standards but skip the catalog all together. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:black">Food for thought.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> DCRM-L <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>>
on behalf of Dobbs, Zoe via DCRM-L <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 14, 2024 10:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Dobbs, Zoe <<a href="mailto:zoe.dobbs@yale.edu">zoe.dobbs@yale.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] OCLC cataloging subscription</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Hi Jennifer (and all),<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Although I’m not a great lover of OCLC I’m not very familiar with the alternatives, so in general I can't conceive of cataloging anything without OCLC, much less special collections. I'm thinking
specifically about the "database of records held by other libraries" aspect, and others can enlighten me about other viable options since I’m still relatively new to the profession. I imagine that finding specific editions/states/printings/etc., depending
on how you catalog, would require both a well-populated database and robust search functionality – and even OCLC’s could be better (looking at you 510 fields). In terms of record creation and editing, OCLC products are far superior to Alma at least from what
I’ve heard (we haven’t migrated to Alma yet). Even Voyager cannot easily support the creation of records with non-Roman scripts that require paired fields, which is why we currently catalog those in Connexion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Unrelated to the actual functionality of OCLC vs. others, I think one also needs to consider not only the cost of any alternative, but also the cost of staff training on that alternative and
the cost of low morale or staff defections that might result from cancelling your OCLC subscription. Those are also real costs that need to be borne when undertaking any major change such as this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Zoe<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Zoe Dobbs</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">she/her/hers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Catalog/Metadata Librarian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Beinecke Rare Book & Manuscript Library<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Yale University Library<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0563C1"><a href="mailto:zoe.dobbs@yale.edu"><span style="color:#0563C1">zoe.dobbs@yale.edu</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> | 203.432.5098<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> DCRM-L <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Christine DeZelar-Tiedman via DCRM-L<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 14, 2024 7:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Christine DeZelar-Tiedman <<a href="mailto:dezel002@umn.edu">dezel002@umn.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] OCLC cataloging subscription<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I answered more generally on the Alma list, but in terms of special collections cataloging, I can't imagine trying to do that in Alma. In particular, searching for records with Alma's very limited
external search options would be a nightmare. The availability of macros, and the methodology for entering special characters and diacritics, is also much more robust and efficient in OCLC Connexion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 10:07 AM MacDonald, Jennifer via DCRM-L <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:black">Dear colleagues, </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:black">Like many institutions, we are going through budget cuts. My administration is considering cancelling our OCLC cataloging subscription. Is anyone at an institution that did this, or contemplated doing it? Was your subscription kept
or not, and what was the reasoning behind the decision? What tools or platforms did you use, or consider using, instead of OCLC? Were the needs of special collections cataloging taken into account? If it was cancelled, what kind of fallout did your institution
experience? I'm particularly interested in outcomes for special collections cataloging, but general cataloging would help as well. On- or off-list responses are welcome.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:black">Thanks,</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jennifer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#0A0A0A">UD Library, Museums and Press</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#0A0A0A">Room 113B</span><span style="font-family:"greycliff-light",serif;color:black"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#FFCE25"> |
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