<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">With that information, I agree with you and Ruth-Ellen that the incorrect placement is due to a binder error at some unknown date, and would also catalog this as a sammelband/bound-with with 4 works. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Good luck!</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Lucretia</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jul 19, 2024, at 5:05 PM, Tess Amram via DCRM-L <dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Lucretia – The catchword does match the page that ought to come next, if the
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<i>Idea compendii theologici</i> always has its own register. There’s also no catchword<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Ruth-Ellen – I’m inclined to agree that bound-with treatment seems like the best way to go. I’m leaning towards treating it as four different works (as opposed to treating the first two works as a unit), with
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<p class="MsoNormal">I wonder if the first two items were in fact published together? Does the catchword on the page before the title page of item two match the later portion? It seems like it might match this second title page, but not exactly, because of
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<p class="MsoNormal">Personally, I would treat it as a bound-with and create records for each of the works. The sammelbands I have been cataloguing recently are often compilations of pamphlets and short works printed and/or published separately but written
in response to an ongoing debate. This example is also cool because the fourth work is printed by the widow of the printer Meyer. My guess is that there are no existing records, or only bare-bones records for some of the works, because they are relatively
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I have a bit of a mystery of an item on my hands, and I can’t tell whether to treat it as a bound-with or a single work. Let me explain:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The first work in this item is Jacob Friedrich Reimmann’s
<i>Historia universalis atheism et atheorum…</i>, with a publication date of 1725. All the records in OCLC that I can find specify that this was published together with Reimmann’s
<i>Idea compendii theologici…</i>, published 1724, added at the end. However, the copy I have in hand has a 1725 edition of the
<i>Idea compendia theologici…</i>, and it’s bound in at the beginning, after the first [32] pages of the
<i>Historia</i>, which picks up again after the <i>Idea compendii.</i> At the end of the text of the
<i>Historia</i>, there is a corrigenda leaf that I can find no mention of in any existing record.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Complicating matters is that there are two other works also bound into this item. The first is Reimmann’s
<i>Diatribe anti-critica</i>, published 1726, followed by a work titled <i>Vindiciae nominis Buddeani contra obtrectationes nuperas Iac. Frid. Reimmanni</i>, also dated 1726, which OCLC tells me is attributed to Johann Heinrich Kromayer. From what I can tell,
these latter two are volleys in an ongoing debate between Reimmann and Kromayer about Johann Franz Buddeus. There’s no English copy for the
<i>Vindiciae</i>, and only one bare-bones English record for the <i>Diatribe</i> that I can find, which makes me unsure if these were published individually.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Basically, I’m unsure if I should treat this item as one single published item with four related works in it, or as four works in a bound-with. I’ve attached pictures of the title
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