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something printed by him in 1527 would be quite a bibliographic discovery. <br>
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Like Ruth Ellen, that title page typeface looks later to me. Is it possible that the title page has been faked and printed with an earlier date? Is there any way that you can get an image of the watermarks in the title page’s paper? That might (or might not)
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am wondering if this is a later facsimile edition of an imprint first published in 1527. At first glance, the typeface looks more modern to me, but I could be wrong. See for example the
<a href="https://www.digitale-sammlungen.de/en/view/bsb10329940?page=2,3">title page</a> of this circa 1520s Martin Luther.
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<p class="MsoNormal">You may have already looked at it, but Universal Short Title Catalogue might be of help. See search results for the title + date
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<p class="MsoNormal">In terms of the weird grid pattern, it looks to me like the printer was using a damaged block that was also slightly smaller than the space they were hoping to fill on the page. In order to fill up the missing space, they used a combination
of smaller rectangular blocks which they possibly printed twice in two different configurations, resulting in the grid pattern. I believe that the original block itself was missing the lower portion with the coat of arms. In other words, the grid pattern is
not obscuring the lower half of the block, but filling in empty space (there is some overlap, which leads me to believe that the larger more elaborate block was printed first).
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I have an odd woodcut title page border I'm hoping someone here might have some ideas on. The book in question is Auslegung der Evangelien von Advent bis Ostrern / gepredigt durch
Martin Luthern. Wittemberg : Johannes Grunenberg, 1527. I can't find any record of this title in OCLC, or in any of the reference works I currently have access to, so any tips on possible reference materials would be appreciated as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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https://photos.app.goo.gl/y7o4c1o56BCaoTQPA</a> The woodcut border has clearly been altered, perhaps to cover some content in the lower portion? It almost looks like there may have been a coat of arms that was being hidden? But I can't figure out how or why
that grid-like pattern was created. Has anyone else seen anything like this? I'm also wondering if the border block may have been reused from another edition or publication?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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