<div dir="ltr">Thank you all!<div>Happy almost weekend,</div><div>Colleen</div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:12.8px"><div><div><div><div><font face="georgia,serif" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" color="#000000">Colleen O. Fedewa, MLS<br></font></div><font face="georgia,serif" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" color="#000000">Acquisitions & Metadata Librarian<br></font></div><font face="georgia,serif" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" color="#000000">Kelvin Smith Library<br></font></div><font face="georgia,serif" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" color="#000000">Case Western Reserve University<br></font></div><font face="georgia,serif" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" color="#000000">Cleveland, OH 44106<br></font></div><font face="georgia,serif" style="font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" color="#000000"><a href="mailto:colleen.fedewa@case.edu" target="_blank">colleen.fedewa@case.edu</a>| <a href="tel:(216)%20368-3535" value="+12163683535" target="_blank">(216)-368-3535</a></font><br></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 3:08 PM Erin Blake <<a href="mailto:EBlake@folger.edu">EBlake@folger.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg5654405837586526331">
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<p class="MsoNormal">See, for instance, Pieter W. Van der Horst and Gerard Mussies. “Subtractive Versus Additive Composite Numerals in Antiquity.”
<i>Illinois Classical Studies</i> 13, no. 1 (1988): 183–202. <a href="http://www.jstor.org/stable/23064074" target="_blank">http://www.jstor.org/stable/23064074</a>.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The article focuses on antiquity, but touches on the continued use for different reasons.
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<p class="MsoNormal">The most obvious reason to use MDCCXIC instead of MDCCLXXXIX would be that it doesn’t take up as much room.
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<p class="MsoNormal">I don’t know if this would have been relevant at the time, but it could also be a way to make a date look less “dated” as time goes by: it connotes “almost 1800” (I know a grad student whose dissertation defence was pushed from December
1999 to January 2000 – a difference of three weeks that makes their resume look more current than it would otherwise).<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Cc:</b> Colleen Fedewa <<a href="mailto:cof3@case.edu" target="_blank">cof3@case.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] unusual roman numeral dates on Latin books from 1700s<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Savioli, Giovanni Battista,1748-1823, author.<br>
Dissertatio in caussam physicam aurorae borealis.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Cc:</b> Colleen Fedewa <<a href="mailto:cof3@case.edu" target="_blank">cof3@case.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] unusual roman numeral dates on Latin books from 1700s</span>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have come across a date in an order that I have never seen before. The book has, " MDCCXIC". I have found a couple of examples that infer this would be 1789 due to some historical usage of a variant of the subtractive form. Can someone
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