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<p class="MsoNormal">See, for instance, Pieter W. Van der Horst and Gerard Mussies. “Subtractive Versus Additive Composite Numerals in Antiquity.”
<i>Illinois Classical Studies</i> 13, no. 1 (1988): 183–202. http://www.jstor.org/stable/23064074.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The article focuses on antiquity, but touches on the continued use for different reasons.
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<p class="MsoNormal">The most obvious reason to use MDCCXIC instead of MDCCLXXXIX would be that it doesn’t take up as much room.
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] unusual roman numeral dates on Latin books from 1700s<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Savioli, Giovanni Battista,1748-1823, author.<br>
Dissertatio in caussam physicam aurorae borealis.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 1:55<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>PM Deborah J. Leslie via DCRM-L <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Cc:</b> Colleen Fedewa <<a href="mailto:cof3@case.edu" target="_blank">cof3@case.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] unusual roman numeral dates on Latin books from 1700s</span>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have come across a date in an order that I have never seen before. The book has, " MDCCXIC". I have found a couple of examples that infer this would be 1789 due to some historical usage of a variant of the subtractive form. Can someone
confirm this and/or direct me to a source discussing this.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you for your assistance,<o:p></o:p></p>
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