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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif">If all else fails we use words rather than symbols:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">12° : A-O⁸<sup>/</sup>⁴ P⁴ [$4/2 signed]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif">12° : A-O</span><span style="font-family:"Cambria Math",serif"> [superscript 8/4]</span><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif"> P</span><span style="font-family:"Cambria Math",serif">⁴</span><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif">
[$4/2 signed]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif">I like the dot though.
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Garamond",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR" style="font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Amanda K. Sprochi<br>
Librarian IV/Cataloger<br>
60 Ellis Library</span><span lang="FR" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">The University of Missouri</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Columbia, MO 65211<br>
(573) 882-0461<br>
<a href="mailto:sprochia@missouri.edu">sprochia@missouri.edu</a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif">she/her/hers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif">The University of Missouri occupies the
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif">traditional land of the Osage, Kiikaapoi,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif">Peoria, and Očhéthi Šakówiŋ peoples.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Karen Attar <karen.attar@london.ac.uk>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 26, 2025 3:54 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Superscript Letters in Collational Formulas (using Unicode)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt">A British perspective: I use the dot too.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt">Karen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Dr Karen Attar<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Curator of Rare Books and University Art<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Senate House Library, University of London<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Senate House<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Malet St<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">London WC1E 7HU<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Tel. 020 7862 8472<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> DCRM-L <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Deborah J. Leslie via DCRM-L<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 25 March 2025 20:46<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Deborah J. Leslie <<a href="mailto:DJLeslie@FOLGER.edu">DJLeslie@FOLGER.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Superscript Letters in Collational Formulas (using Unicode)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black">Dear Stefan,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black">In my experience, it's a mistake to try to approximate the look of one character by replacing it with a different character that carries its own meaning.
For instance, using superscript zero in place of a superscript o (oh)—rendering the statement nonsensical if the font displays zeroes with a slash. Use of the prime character would be an example of this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black">It's far preferable to preserve standard meaning when encoding characters, making necessary accommodations based on what characters are available, so long
as the result is clear. The superscript slash is a mark of punctuation; the task is to find another mark of punctuation that fulfills the function of indicating alternating split gatherings. When I was a new cataloger, I used a standard slash, which is unsightly
and can be slightly confusing when mixed with superscript letters, such as this:
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"IBM Plex Sans",sans-serif;color:black">Signatures: ã</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif;color:black">⁸</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"IBM Plex Sans",sans-serif;color:black">
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">ẽ⁴</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"IBM Plex Sans",sans-serif;color:black"> A-2E</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif;color:black">⁸</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"IBM Plex Sans",sans-serif;color:black">/</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria Math",serif;color:black">⁴</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black">I have since settled on using the "dot in the center of the line" as it is called in OCLC Connexion—which I believe is equivalent to the the middle dot
in unicode (U+00B7)—and have been training other catalogers to do the same. It doesn't look like a slash, but in context it is perfectly clear to those who can read signature statements. (For those who can't, it's gibberish in any case):
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"IBM Plex Sans",sans-serif;color:black">Signatures: A-O<sup>8</sup>·<sup>4 </sup></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black">I'd be open to other alternatives if someone knows of a better way; in the meantime, I commend "middle dot" to your consideration. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black">Best wishes,<br>
Deborah<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#2E74B5">______________________<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#2E74B5">Deborah J Leslie
</span><span lang="EN-GB"><img border="0" width="10" height="10" style="width:.1041in;height:.1041in" id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01DB9E33.C2B71260"></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#2E74B5">,
M.A., M.L.S. | Senior Cataloger | Folger Shakespeare Library | <a href="mailto:djleslie@folger.edu">
<span style="color:#2E74B5">djleslie@folger.edu</span></a> | Opinions her own</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> DCRM-L on behalf of Duhr, Stefan via DCRM-L<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 25, 2025 08:00<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Duhr, Stefan<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] [EXT] Re: Superscript Letters in Collational Formulas (using Unicode)
</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Dear colleagues,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thank you very much for your answers. While creating rules for Collational Formulas for German-speaking countries based on Bowers, DCRMR, Gaskell, Greg and Tanselle, I noticed that
in addition to superscript and subscript numerals and individual superscript letters, a further character is required, a superscript slash (“<sup>/</sup>”). However, this is not defined in Unicode.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">It is used to describe gathering sequences with an alternating range. David Whitesell provides a corresponding example in his collection of examples created for the Rare Book School
(<u><span style="color:#0563C1"><a href="https://rarebookschool.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/G-10HomeworkExamples2014.pdf"><span style="color:#0563C1">https://rarebookschool.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/G-10HomeworkExamples2014.pdf</span></a></span></u>)
on the penultimate page.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Here is the example:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">12° : A-O⁸<sup>/</sup>⁴ P⁴ [$4/2 signed]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">12° : A⁸ B-P⁸<sup>/</sup>⁴ [$4/2 signed; missigning B3,4 as A3,4, D4 as D3, N2 as 'N1']<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Such phenomena are mainly found in French prints and I have often encountered them in my work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">There are also gathering sequences in the form 4/2/4/2 (cf.
<u><span style="color:#0563C1"><a href="https://opac.k10plus.de/DB=2.299/PPNSET?PPN=1686415796&PRS=HOL&INDEXSET=21"><span style="color:#0563C1">K10plus-PPN 1686415796</span></a></span></u>).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Hence my question:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Which Unicode character do you use for such phenomena?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The use of
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Gadugi",sans-serif">ᐟ</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> (U+141F) or ′ (U+2032) does not seem quite appropriate to me.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Stefan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Stefan Duhr, M.A.</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><br>
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Abteilung Handschriften und Historische Drucke | Department of Manuscripts and Early Printed Books</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black;background:white">Prussian Cultural Heritage Foundation</span><br>
Unter den Linden 8<br>
10117 Berlin<br>
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+49 30 266-43 6688<br>
<u><span style="color:blue"><a href="mailto:stefan.duhr@sbb.spk-berlin.de">stefan.duhr@sbb.spk-berlin.de</a></span></u><br>
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<p><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">“There is no bounds to be set upon human stupidity, where books are concerned.”</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">James Duff Brown, Scottish bibliographer and librarian (A manual of practical bibliography. London 1906, p. 92)</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Deborah J. Leslie via DCRM-L<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 27. Februar 2025 16:53<br>
<b>An:</b> DCRM Users' Group <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Deborah J. Leslie <<a href="mailto:DJLeslie@FOLGER.edu">DJLeslie@FOLGER.edu</a>><br>
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M.A., M.L.S. | Senior Cataloger | Folger Shakespeare Library | <u><a href="mailto:djleslie@folger.edu"><span style="color:#2E74B5">djleslie@folger.edu</span></a></u> | Opinions her own</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> DCRM-L <</span><u><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0563C1"><a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu"><span style="color:#0563C1">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</span></a></span></u><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">>
on behalf of Erin Blake via DCRM-L <</span><u><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0563C1"><a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu"><span style="color:#0563C1">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</span></a></span></u><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 27, 2025 10:22<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <</span><u><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0563C1"><a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu"><span style="color:#0563C1">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</span></a></span></u><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Erin Blake <</span><u><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0563C1"><a href="mailto:EBlake@FOLGER.edu"><span style="color:#0563C1">EBlake@FOLGER.edu</span></a></span></u><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Superscript Letters in Collational Formulas (using Unicode)</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB">At the Folger, we do use Unicode superscripts and subscripts in our online catalog. See
<u><span style="color:#0563C1"><a href="https://folgerpedia.folger.edu/Unicode_characters_for_cataloging"><span style="color:#0563C1">https://folgerpedia.folger.edu/Unicode_characters_for_cataloging</span></a></span></u>.</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB">Unicode can also be used when cataloging in OCLC Connexion’s shared environment (see
<u><span style="color:#0563C1"><a href="https://help.oclc.org/Metadata_Services/Connexion/Connexion_client/International_cataloging"><span style="color:#0563C1">https://help.oclc.org/Metadata_Services/Connexion/Connexion_client/International_cataloging</span></a></span></u> for
examples).</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB">Unfortunately, Unicode superscripts 1, 2, and 3 are in a different block from the other digits, and some computer fonts display them with different alignments and weights. This wasn’t a problem with our previous online catalog, but is
with our current catalog. Here’s a screenshot for example:</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB">See also <u><span style="color:#0563C1"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_subscripts_and_superscripts"><span style="color:#0563C1">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_subscripts_and_superscripts</span></a></span></u>.</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB">Best,</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB">Erin</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt">Erin Blake, PhD | she/her | Senior Cataloger | Folger Shakespeare Library | Washington, DC 20003 |
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<p><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> DCRM-L <<u><span style="color:#0563C1"><a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu"><span style="color:#0563C1">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</span></a></span></u>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Duhr, Stefan via DCRM-L<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 26, 2025 3:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group <<u><span style="color:#0563C1"><a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu"><span style="color:#0563C1">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</span></a></span></u>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Duhr, Stefan <<u><span style="color:#0563C1"><a href="mailto:Stefan.Duhr@sbb.spk-berlin.de"><span style="color:#0563C1">Stefan.Duhr@sbb.spk-berlin.de</span></a></span></u>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] Superscript Letters in Collational Formulas (using Unicode)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">As a member of the committee responsible for the German-speaking countries (Germany, Austria, Switzerland), the “<u><span style="color:#0563C1"><a href="https://wiki.dnb.de/display/STAC/AG+Alte+Drucke"><span style="color:#0563C1">Arbeitsgemeinschaft
Alte Drucke beim Standardisierungsauschuss der Deutschen Nationalbibliothek</span></a></span></u>”, I have the following question for you:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">In the German union database
<u><span style="color:#0563C1"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K10plus"><span style="color:#0563C1">K10plus</span></a></span></u>, superscript and subscript numbers and letters that can be recorded using Unicode have recently been permitted. This now
enables us to specify these when writing collation formulas as part of the cataloging of Early Printed Books. There should be no problems when exchanging data.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">We do not see any problems with superscript and subscript numbers in this regard. However, there is still some doubt about superscript letters, as these originate from different
Unicode blocks* and are not represented uniformly in our union catalog.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">A German-language overview of the numbers and letters to be used can be found here:
<u><span style="color:#0563C1"><a href="https://verbundwiki.gbv.de/download/attachments/201228317/Signaturformeln_Unicode.pdf"><span style="color:#0563C1">https://verbundwiki.gbv.de/download/attachments/201228317/Signaturformeln_Unicode.pdf</span></a></span></u>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Our question is whether you in English-speaking countries also use Unicode when entering collational formulas – especially for superscript letters – or whether you use a different
character set (which one?).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">As we have been able to ascertain, the use of superscript letters in collational formulas is permitted according to the DCRM (see
<u><span style="color:#0563C1"><a href="https://bsc.rbms.info/DCRMR/phys-desc/Note-on-extent-of-manifestation/#621544-signatures"><span style="color:#0563C1">6.215 — Note on extent of manifestation - DCRM (RDA Edition)</span></a></span></u> under 6.215.44.3).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">With kind regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">p.p. Stefan Duhr<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">*) ᵖ and ᵛ => "Phonetic Extensions", ᶜ => "Phonetic Extensions Supplement", ʰ and ʳ => "Spacing Modifier Letters" and ⁱ => "Superscripts and Subscripts"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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