<div dir="ltr">I'm responding to the whole group because I'm very interested to hear more on this topic and have a bit of a question myself. And I'm going to try to be quick, as I need to get home and cook dinner.<div><br></div><div>I mean, I'm probably saying the absolute obvious here, but beyond a good local binding note (I don't know whether you are using 563 or 590 or a custom local extension in Alma) and adding a good set of 655 genre terms, I'm not sure what to do here. And that is frustrating to me, because it feels like we really ought to have a standard method for addressing pictorial bindings where the illustration or pictorial tr4eatment is what is of particular interest. Here's a record of mine from the depths of time. Please look kindly on it as it is over a decade old at this point and RDA, DCRM, and the RBMS controlled vocabularies have changed since then, and I've grown as a cataloger: <a href="https://tripod.brynmawr.edu/permalink/01TRI_INST/1ijd0uu/alma991007868749704921" target="_blank">https://tripod.brynmawr.edu/permalink/01TRI_INST/1ijd0uu/alma991007868749704921</a>.<br><br>Here's another example from the University of St. Andrews that takes a similar approach, though that's also over a decade old: <a href="https://librarysearch.st-andrews.ac.uk/permalink/44USTA_INST/6vqs55/alma991011256409708966" target="_blank">https://librarysearch.st-andrews.ac.uk/permalink/44USTA_INST/6vqs55/alma991011256409708966</a><br><br></div><div>I'd be eager to see some more up-to-date records for this myself. And I have a couple of questions that may help to tease out some practical advice as well:</div><div><br></div><div>1) Is there a standard reference work and/or a crowdsourced database of panel stamps that we can refer to and put in a 590 (because it looks like there's no capability for 510 to be flagged as describing item or institution specific details? I think that if the answer to this is yes, this would be an ideal way. But I also feel like, if there were a comprehensive resource of this type it would be in the RBMS Catalogers Tools Resources or in the Standard Citation Forms.<br><br>2) I've been kind of noodling for some time on how to best include controlled terms for binding aboutness rather than isness. I'm wondering if this could be solved with the 690/69X (whatever you can use for local topicals). I feel like this could be a good use for subfield 3? Like if we have a panel stamped portrait of Martin Luther with unnamed angels in the border rolls, could we do something like:<br><br>696 #0 $3 Binding, central portrait: $a Luther, Martin, $e depicted.<br></div><div>690 #0 $3 Binding, borders: $a Angels.</div><div><br></div><div>I mean, this is predicated on the notion that a given collection has enough of a given type of binding or researcher to justify the cataloging time. But I think that there are definitely use cases for this. And I've not really found a good solution myself for *encoding* aboutness in bindings, even when that's important. Please go easy on me here, if the above is terrible. I'd be happy to hear your ideas on this.<br><br>OK. What was supposed to be a quick message has turned into a 50 minute message. Have a really nice weekend all, and I'm excited to hear about other models and resources to answer Eric's question!</div><div><br></div><div>Pax</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 14, 2025 at 4:19 PM Johnson-DeBaufre, Eric via DCRM-L <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am looking for some advice on how (or whether) those of you who catalog panel-stamped bindings handle issues of the images often found on the central panels of these bindings.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We have, for example, a number of panel-stamped bound books in our collection (which almost always seem to be found on alum-tawed bindings) that have readily identifiable images, among them Luther and Melanchthon, the Biblical figures Judith
and Jael, and one (so far) with two panels that are clearly copied from Lucas Cranach’s painting “Allegory of Law and Grace.”<br>
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I am wondering about the best way to make this information available for researchers who might be interested not simply in the fact that we have a number of panel-stamped bindings in our holdings but who want to find specific stamps or kinds of content (e.g.
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Do any of you have recommendations or examples of bibliographic records I might use as a model?<br>
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Many thanks for your assistance!<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Eric<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Eric Johnson-DeBaufre, PhD, MLIS</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(32,31,30)"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Rare Books and Special Collections Librarian, Watkinson Library</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(32,31,30)"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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