<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">As a former germanist, I would say that Dylan is very right to suggest that “o” over a “u” should not be considered an umlaut - the two situations he mentions are quite common, and I don’t recollect ever seeing o-over-u as signalling ü.<div><br></div><div>In this case, I’d think “uo” diphthong is most likely.<br><div><br></div><div>John Lancaster</div><div><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Dec 4, 2025, at 1:46 PM, Lewis, Dylan via DCRM-L <dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div class="elementToProof" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Hi all,</div><div class="elementToProof" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div><div class="elementToProof" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">I do not have a solution for OCLC because I've found it difficult to work with when using less common diacritics, so I am eagerly following this conversation.</div><div class="elementToProof" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div><div class="elementToProof" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">I would, however, suggest that the u be represented with a superscript Roman o instead of rendering it as an umlaut, as Karen suggested. It would take a bit of research to truly determine if an umlaut's function was meant there, as a u with a superscript o can mean several things in sixteenth-century German (some dialects used it as a graphematic distinction between u and n, other dialects used it to signal a /uo/ diphthong separate from /ue/). I think it's actually more likely it was not intended to be read as an umlaut, so we should not assume it was meant to be one.</div><div class="elementToProof" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div><div class="elementToProof" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Please do let me know if a solution is found regarding the superscript character not in OCLC's menu! </div><div class="elementToProof" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Best,<br>Dylan</div><div class="elementToProof" id="Signature" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div class="elementToProof" style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div><div class="elementToProof"><span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(248, 249, 250);">❡</span><span style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(23, 78, 134);"><b>Dylan Lewis</b></span><span style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> (<a title="https://pronouns.org/he-him" href="https://pronouns.org/he-him" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">he/him</a>)</span></div><div class="elementToProof" style="text-align: left; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Rare Book Librarian</div><div class="elementToProof" style="text-align: left; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Andrew W. 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It’s interesting that there’s a letter u with a superscript character above it in the place of an umlaut in one instance, though mostly u has a regular umlaut above it where required.</span></div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">We are moving in the direction of transcribing letters as they are meant to be (e.g. vv where there is a slight space between the two letters v is now transcribed as w). Under those circumstances, lacking technical power to transcribe the superscript o, if I were in this dilemma I would transcribe as ö, and add a note about how the umlauts are represented on the title page.</span></div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">I do not actually enter things on OCLC, so if somebody from the US answers your email, follow what they say, not what I say.</span></div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Best wishes,<br>Karen</span></div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Dr Karen Attar</span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Curator of Rare Books and University Art</span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Senate House Library, University of London</span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Senate House</span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Malet St</span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">London WC1E 7HU</span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang="DE" style="font-size: 11pt;">Tel. 020 7862 8472</span></div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang="DE" style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span><a href="https://research.london.ac.uk/search/fellow/516/dr-karen-attar/" originalsrc="https://research.london.ac.uk/search/fellow/516/dr-karen-attar/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><span lang="DE" style="color: rgb(70, 120, 134);">https://research.london.ac.uk/search/fellow/516/dr-karen-attar/</span></a></span><span lang="DE"></span></div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang="DE" style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang="DE" style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span lang="DE" style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p><div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;"><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>DCRM-L <dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Calli Neumann via DCRM-L<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>04 December 2025 16:18<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Calli Neumann <CNeumann@getty.edu><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[DCRM-L] Transcription of German superscript "o"</span></div></div></div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"> </p><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Hello,</span></div></div><div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">I'm cataloging disbound leaves of a German book from 1556, which is digitized<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/New_gro%C3%9F_distillier_Buch_wolgegr%C3%BCndter/-nhVAAAAcAAJ?hl=en" originalsrc="https://www.google.com/books/edition/New_gro%C3%9F_distillier_Buch_wolgegr%C3%BCndter/-nhVAAAAcAAJ?hl=en" title="https://www.google.com/books/edition/New_gro%C3%9F_distillier_Buch_wolgegr%C3%BCndter/-nhVAAAAcAAJ?hl=en" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">here</a><a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/New_gro%C3%9F_distillier_Buch_wolgegr%C3%BCndter/-nhVAAAAcAAJ?hl=en" originalsrc="https://www.google.com/books/edition/New_gro%C3%9F_distillier_Buch_wolgegr%C3%BCndter/-nhVAAAAcAAJ?hl=en" title="https://www.google.com/books/edition/New_gro%C3%9F_distillier_Buch_wolgegr%C3%BCndter/-nhVAAAAcAAJ?hl=en" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="text-decoration: none;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></a>in Google Books.</span></div></div><div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">My question is about the superscript "o" in "Buch" in the title. The example in the table of Early Letterforms & Symbols shows that the letter should be transcribed with the superscript character ("můss"). The same example also appears in a wonderful post from the Folger<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.folger.edu/blogs/collation/brevigraphs/" originalsrc="https://www.folger.edu/blogs/collation/brevigraphs/" title="https://www.folger.edu/blogs/collation/brevigraphs/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">here</a>: "In German ... it really is a superscript<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i>o</i>, a medieval superscript letter diacritic." There is a footnote that says this should not confused with the ring diacritic ("overring"), and that "Combining Latin Small Letter o" is Unicode U+0366.</span></div></div><div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Assuming I'm on the right track, how should this be entered in OCLC? There is only a ring in the diacritics and special characters menu. Unsure whether I can copy & paste a "u" with the Unicode character indicated above, and it does not look right pasted in Connexion.</span></div></div><div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Thank you!</span></div></div><div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Calli</span></div></div><div id="x_Signature"><div><p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p></div><div style="margin: 0cm;"><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(26, 71, 184);">Calli Neumann<br></span></b><span style="font-size: 9pt; 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