NEED RESPONSE - Topic 6: Glossary: "FIGURE"

[Sider, Sandra]

I thought about including "Figure" because I see cataloguing descriptions
that seem to confuse "figure" and "plate."  In this Age of Recon,
unqualified folks are trying to do multitudes of rare book records.

Sandra 

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Deborah J. Leslie [SMTP:DJLeslie at FOLGER.edu]
> Sent:	Wednesday, November 03, 1999 10:16 AM
> To:	'dcrb-l at lib.byu.edu'
> Subject:	RE: NEED RESPONSE - Topic 6: Glossary: "FIGURE"
> 
> No--I don't see why it ought to be included. Do you have an argument to
> support its inclusion? --DJL
> 
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sider, Sandra [mailto:Sandra.Sider at sothebys.com]
> Sent: 03 November 1999 9:59 AM
> To: 'DCRB-l at lib.byu.edu'
> Subject: NEED RESPONSE - Topic 6: Glossary: "FIGURE"
> 
> 
> Could everyone please take a moment to vote "YES" or "NO" about whether
> "Figure" should be included in the DCRB Glossary?
> 
> Also, here is how I see it:
> While a figure IS (usually) an illustration, a plate CONTAINS illustrative
> material--whether a numbered figure or not. Yes?  
> 
> Thanks, Sandra  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Manon Theroux [SMTP:manon.theroux at yale.edu]
> > Sent:	Tuesday, November 02, 1999 8:36 PM
> > To:	dcrb-l at lib.byu.edu
> > Subject:	Topic 6: Glossary: "FIGURE"
> > 
> > First, what is the rationale for adding the term in the first place?
> Will
> > it appear in the DCRM rules?  If not, why do we need it in the glossary?
> > 
> > As for the definition itself, it seems natural to first consult existing
> > glossaries.  Glaister's Encyclopedia of the Book (2nd ed.) has a
> > definition
> > that closely resembles Sandra's earlier version:
> >  
> > "figure:  1. an illustration on a page of text with which it is printed
> > from a forme imposed together with type. Cf. plate.  2. see numerals."
> > 
> > I find no definition in either Carter's ABC for Book Collectors (7th
> ed.)
> > or Peters's The Bookman's Glossary (5th ed.) .
> > 
> > Is there an authoritative source that backs up the revised definition
> > suggested below?  If plates can also contain figures, then how does a
> > figure differ from an illustration?  And how does the numbering fit in?
> > 
> > --Manon
> > -------------------------------------------------
> > >From: "Sider, Sandra" <Sandra.Sider at sothebys.com>
> > >To: "'dcrb-l at lib.byu.edu'" <dcrb-l at lib.byu.edu>
> > >Subject: I must be stupid today--Elizabeth is correct re. "FIGURE"
> > >Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:21:05 +0100
> > >
> > >Everyone should ignore my previous post re. "figure."  I have edited
> the
> > >entry for "Figure" below, q.v.
> > >
> > >Any further comments?
> > >
> > 
> > >> Figure.  [N.B.: new term.]  An illustration printed on a page of
> text,
> > >> or printed on a page which is an integral part of a gathering.
> Plates
> > can
> > >> also contain numbered figures. See also Plate.
> > >> 
> > >> Plate.  A primarily illustrative leaf that is (usually) not an
> integral
> > >> part of a gathering.  Tables, scores, and similar material printed on
> > leaves
> > >> that are not an integral part of a gathering are also treated as
> > plates.
> >  See
> > >> also Figure.
> 
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