DCRB Glossaries and AMREMM and whatever
Sider, Sandra
Sandra.Sider at sothebys.com
Wed Nov 3 08:42:05 MST 1999
Hi everyone,
Right now AMREMM and DCRB are two different animals, published (or whatever)
separately. (I have been in touch with Gregory about the AMREMM terms.)
Before I rotate off the BSC in seven months, it might be a good idea to firm
up the DCRB Glossary as a unit in itself. I am a little nervous about this
process dragging on for yet another year or more.
Sandra
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jane Gillis [SMTP:jane.gillis at yale.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 10:37 AM
> To: dcrb-l at lib.byu.edu; 'DCRB-l at lib.byu.edu'
> Subject: Re: NEED RESPONSE - Topic 6: Glossary: "FIGURE"
>
> Before I vote, I have a couple of questions:
>
> Does 'figure' appear in AMREMM?
> Is there to be a separate AMREMM Glossary?
> Will the Glossary for DCRM include all definitions from the separate
> parts
> of DCRM (books, serials, manuscripts, music, etc.)?
>
> If figure is not anywhere in DCRM, I would vote not to include it.
>
> At 02:58 PM 11/3/99 +0000, Sider, Sandra wrote:
> >Could everyone please take a moment to vote "YES" or "NO" about whether
> >"Figure" should be included in the DCRB Glossary?
> >
> >Also, here is how I see it:
> >While a figure IS (usually) an illustration, a plate CONTAINS
> illustrative
> >material--whether a numbered figure or not. Yes?
> >
> >Thanks, Sandra
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Manon Theroux [SMTP:manon.theroux at yale.edu]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 8:36 PM
> >> To: dcrb-l at lib.byu.edu
> >> Subject: Topic 6: Glossary: "FIGURE"
> >>
> >> First, what is the rationale for adding the term in the first place?
> Will
> >> it appear in the DCRM rules? If not, why do we need it in the
> glossary?
> >>
> >> As for the definition itself, it seems natural to first consult
> existing
> >> glossaries. Glaister's Encyclopedia of the Book (2nd ed.) has a
> >> definition
> >> that closely resembles Sandra's earlier version:
> >>
> >> "figure: 1. an illustration on a page of text with which it is printed
> >> from a forme imposed together with type. Cf. plate. 2. see numerals."
> >>
> >> I find no definition in either Carter's ABC for Book Collectors (7th
> ed.)
> >> or Peters's The Bookman's Glossary (5th ed.) .
> >>
> >> Is there an authoritative source that backs up the revised definition
> >> suggested below? If plates can also contain figures, then how does a
> >> figure differ from an illustration? And how does the numbering fit in?
> >>
> >> --Manon
> >> -------------------------------------------------
> >> >From: "Sider, Sandra" <Sandra.Sider at sothebys.com>
> >> >To: "'dcrb-l at lib.byu.edu'" <dcrb-l at lib.byu.edu>
> >> >Subject: I must be stupid today--Elizabeth is correct re. "FIGURE"
> >> >Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:21:05 +0100
> >> >
> >> >Everyone should ignore my previous post re. "figure." I have edited
> the
> >> >entry for "Figure" below, q.v.
> >> >
> >> >Any further comments?
> >> >
> >>
> >> >> Figure. [N.B.: new term.] An illustration printed on a page of
> text,
> >> >> or printed on a page which is an integral part of a gathering.
> Plates
> >> can
> >> >> also contain numbered figures. See also Plate.
> >> >>
> >> >> Plate. A primarily illustrative leaf that is (usually) not an
> integral
> >> >> part of a gathering. Tables, scores, and similar material printed
> on
> >> leaves
> >> >> that are not an integral part of a gathering are also treated as
> >> plates.
> >> See
> >> >> also Figure.
> >
> >
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