[DCRM-L] FW: APPM in Desktop 2004 issue 2

[Deborah J. Leslie]

Given the apparent confusion and/or opposition to acceptance of DACS*, I
thought rare materials catalogers would be interested to know that Bruce
Johnson of the Cataloger's Desktop is planning to pull APPM from the
next issue and replace it with DACS. He is asking for guidance from
Desktop subscribers, however. I would encourage any agency that plans to
continue to use APPM for the present time send their opinion to
DESKTOP at sun8.loc.gov, or privately to Bruce Johnson at bjoh at loc.gov. 

In contrast to what I understood Kris Kiesling to say when she and I
spoke in Orlando, we are told that DACS will become the descriptive
content standard recognized and supported by SAA. 

________________________
Deborah J. Leslie
Folger Library
djleslie at folger.edu

*DACS=Describing Archives: A Content Standard


-----Original Message-----
From: Cataloger's Desktop Forum [mailto:DESKTOP at loc.gov] On Behalf Of
Bruce C Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 2:56 PM
To: DESKTOP at sun8.LOC.GOV
Subject: Re: APPM in Desktop 2004 issue 2

Deborah:

   I received a separate message correcting my earlier message:

[snip] "that's the Society of American Archivists and according to
their site, the new edition -- called Describing Archives: A Content
Standard -- has been published and is available. See
http://www.archivists.org/catalog/pubDetail.asp?objectID=1279  "

We would appreciate any guidance that Desktop subscribers would care to
give on this subject.

Bruce

Bruce Chr. Johnson
Library of Congress
Cataloging Distribution Service
Washington, DC 20540-4911 USA

202-707-1652 (voice)  bjoh at loc.gov
202-707-3959 (fax)

>>> DJLeslie at FOLGER.EDU 7/20/2004 12:32:26 PM >>>
Can you verify that it's a new edition of APPM that is coming out, or
is it _Describing Archives, a Content Standard (DACS)_?

If the latter, I'd like to advise caution. My informants tell me that
DACS is not an official SAA standard, and that there is still a fair
amount of controversy in the archival community about its provisions,
and that several archival repositories will continue to use APPM unless
and until DACS is in a position to replace APPM.

________________________
Deborah J. Leslie
Head of Cataloging
Folger Shakespeare Library
djleslie at folger.edu


-----Original Message-----
From: Cataloger's Desktop Forum [mailto:DESKTOP at loc.gov] On Behalf Of
Bruce C Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 11:40 AM
To: DESKTOP at sun8.LOC.GOV
Subject: Re: APPM in Desktop 2004 issue 2

Patricia:

   You are correct in noting that APPM has been withdrawn.  APPM's
copyright owner, the Special Libraries Association (SLA) has asked that
APPM be removed from Cataloger's Desktop because the 1989 edition is
very out of date and a new edition is expected in the next few months.
Once the new edition is complete, CDS and SLA will be working out
distribution terms for inclusion in Cataloger's Desktop.  We will update
everyone once there is something to report.

Bruce

Bruce Chr. Johnson
Library of Congress
Cataloging Distribution Service
Washington, DC 20540-4911 USA

202-707-1652 (voice)  bjoh at loc.gov
202-707-3959 (fax)

>>> DRAGONP at MAIL.ECU.EDU 7/20/2004 11:21:56 AM >>>
Hi,

Am I recalling correctly that Desktop used to contain the 2nd ed.
(1989) of Archives, Personal Papers, and Manuscripts (APPM)?  I can no
longer find this in the tools list.  Has it been removed, or am I
mis-remembering that it was ever there?

Patricia

Patricia M. Dragon
Cataloging Department
Joyner Library
East Carolina University
Greenville, NC  27858-4353
dragonp at mail.ecu.edu
(252) 328-0296