[DCRM-L] Relator terms

Tue Dec 5 07:05:36 MST 2006

The Grolier Club also makes extensive use of relator terms, both for 
individuals and corporate bodies.

At 08:55 AM 12/5/2006, you wrote:
>Same for the Folger. Plus the many relators for printers and 
>booksellers identified as a corporate body, of the "710 2_ Haeredes 
>Nicolai Bevilaquae, |e printer" variety
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>From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] 
>On Behalf Of Hillyard, Brian
>Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 6:20 AM
>To: DCRM Revision Group List
>Subject: RE: [DCRM-L] Relator terms
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>Bob
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>One of the most common uses of relators in 710 must be for indexing 
>former ownership by institutions (e.g. monastic, British Museum 
>duplicates, and so on).  We would have hundreds if not thousands of these.
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>Best wishes
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>Brian
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>From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] 
>On Behalf Of Robert Maxwell
>Sent: 05 December 2006 00:10
>To: DCRM Revision Group List
>Subject: [DCRM-L] Relator terms
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>Dear DCRMers,
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>We seem to be winding down somewhat on the final touches to DCRM, so 
>I thought I'd introduce another topic entirely :-) Speaking of 
>which, MANY congratulations and thanks to Manon, Deborah, and all 
>you others who have contributed so much to this!
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>As many of you are, we are an RLIN library working on the transition 
>to OCLC. We've taped our records to OCLC for years but never 
>cataloged in the system. In order to continue our PCC BIBCO work we 
>recently applied for and were granted the appropriate cataloging 
>enhance statuses. However there was a small glitch. OCLC wanted a 
>set of sample records, and I chose a variety of BYU original records 
>that were already in OCLC through our tapeloading. This sample 
>included a few of my own cataloging records. Although we were given 
>the enhance status we needed, a few of the records were returned to 
>me with "problems" circled in red. And these "problems" were all on 
>my records and they were all instances where I had included relator 
>terms with added entries :-(
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>The OCLC examiners had two issues: (1) LCRI 21.0D supposedly forbids 
>the use of relator terms, and (2) AACR2 only allows relators to be 
>used with personal names, not corporate bodies.
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>Now the answer to (1) seems fairly straightforward to me--LCRI 21.0D 
>is explicitly labelled "LC Practice", meaning it need not apply 
>outside LC (and as a matter of fact I happen to know that the LC 
>Practice label was added specifically so that BIBCO catalogers could 
>use relator terms).
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>The answer to (2) is a little more tricky--frankly I had never 
>dreamed that we couldn't use "$e printer" or "$e publisher" after a 
>corporate body (e.g. Arion Press, $e printer or Book Club of 
>California, $e publisher), but now that it has been pointed out to 
>me 21.0D does in fact say "In the cases noted below, add [a] ... 
>designation of function to an added entry for a person". (MARC 
>documentation certainly allows for use of relators terms in 710 
>fields.) I was told by someone at LC that it had been recently 
>proposed to JSC to correct this and add corporate bodies to the rule 
>but it had been withdrawn pending RDA, but I don't remember anything 
>about such a proposal.
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>As the new kid on the block I don't really want to get a reputation 
>for belligerency (and in fact I really don't WANT to be 
>belligerent!) but I do want to clarify this and so I intend to bring 
>it up with the person who examined our records, but after I've 
>consulted you folks. It does seem to me that relator terms add quite 
>a bit of value to entries, especially considering FRBR's emphasis on 
>clarifying the relationships between entities (e.g. between persons 
>or corporate bodies and works, expressions, manifestations, or 
>items). They are also essential to the indexing in our catalog. I am 
>talking about relator terms, not codes, by the way.
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>I'd be interested in your thoughts, on two fronts: (1) I have been 
>assuming that most of the rare cataloging community does use relator 
>terms in their work, but I could be wrong--so I'd be interested in 
>hearing what your practice is (including do you use them with 
>corporate bodies, and does your library use them outside special 
>collections cataloging); and (2) those of you who are experienced 
>OCLC catalogers, including enhance libraries, do you use them in 
>OCLC master records? I suppose one could enhance or create the 
>master record and then add relators to the local record but that 
>does seem a bit a shame to me ...
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>And of course anything else you have to say about this issue would 
>be of great interest. And any other tips on becoming a successful 
>OCLC cataloging entity!
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>Thanks,
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>Bob
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>Robert L. Maxwell
>Special Collections and Ancient Languages Catalog Librarian
>Genre/Form Authorities Librarian
>6728 Harold B. Lee Library
>Brigham Young University
>Provo, UT 84602
>(801)422-5568
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