[DCRM-L] Dated Bindings - was Re: Recipes in RBGENR

[Rachel D'Agostino]

Speaking as someone with much more familiarity with 19th century
bindings than with earlier ones, what is meant by "initials" in this
conversation?  Are these initials identifying the binder, in which case
I assume we would call them Signed bindings?  Or are they identifying
the owner, in which case, why stop at initials?  I see many 19th century
bindings with a gilt supra libris and have only been using Bindings
(Provenance) for these.  I have often lamented the absence of an
appropriate term in the Binding Terms thesaurus.

Rachel

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From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On
Behalf Of Lenore Rouse
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 3:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Dated Bindings - was Re: Recipes in RBGENR

Hi Richard et al.
Mine is a German Bible in morocco, with initials at the top (F.F.), tons

of brass furniture and the date 1733 at bottom. This sort of thing is 
different from bindings that are dated on tail of spine - they are 
another variety- newer more self-conscious productions, and I don't know

if there is a useful distinction to be made here. And yes I've wondered 
about initialed bindings too.
Lenore

Richard Noble wrote:
> "Dated bindings" would be a very useful term--I even have a note on 
> the inside front cover (oops--cover p. [2]) of my copy of rbbin to 
> that effect, with a local candidate to receive the term. Shall I 
> propose? Or would Lenore like to do it?
>
> The binding in question is classic 1588 German: pigskin, 
> panel-stamped, dated,  and initialed. We're good on the former now, 
> but might there be some call for the latter term, "Initialed 
> bindings"? A little hard to scope, perhaps, since (as with 
> panel-stamped and blocked bindings) I have a feeling that 16th-c. 
> examples aren't the same, somehow, as 18th- or 19th-c. ones. Perhaps 
> that doesn't matter.
>
> Richard
>
> At 4/29/2008    02:40 PM, Lenore Rouse wrote:
>> Deborah et al.
>>
>> Maybe for this instance Recipes (Cookery) or some similar subterfuge?
>>
>> In turn may I pose a question re. rbbin? I was looking for a heading 
>> to apply to dated leather bindings (i.e. where the binder has tooled 
>> the date on (usually) the cover) - I can't find any such term in 
>> rbbin and wonder if there would be enough interest in trying to 
>> generate such a term?
>>
>> best regards
>> Lenore Rouse

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