[DCRM-L] Recipes in RBGENR

[nina at supermodern.com]

AAT has a number of related terms:

Magic
Occultism

and again, LCSH has a number of options:

Cabala   (May Subd Geog) 
Charms   (May Subd Geog)
Magic tricks   (May Subd Geog) 
Magic   (May Subd Geog)


Nina

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These are all interesting and helpful questions. We haven't used "655's"
at HUC, but that's no guarantee that we might not in the future. Nor did
we do so in either of the other institutions where I have been
professionally employed. It's been a while since I cataloged a sixteenth
century book with a binding with the full panoply of dates, initials,
names, tooling, hardware, etc., but what I would have done (and would do
today) would be to give as full a binding description as possible, being
careful to consistently use standard terms, and trust in the fact that
the local electronic catalogs allowed for searching such terms in the
notes.

 

Leslie's initial question continues to intrigue me. We seem to have
quite a number of "miscellany" mss. that include collections of
recipes/receipts that are both medicinal and magical/mystical, these of
course not being exclusive categories in earlier times. I doubt any
would have included "Grandma's matzo ball soup" in the list, so
"Cookery" in most cases as a subject heading would not be a concern. I
notice that the list on the RBMS website has in addition to "Medical
formularies", which would work in some cases for us, "Magical picture
books", which would not be relevant. There do not seem to be any options
for something in the line of "Cabalistic formularies" or "Practical
magic". Then there are the mss. devoted to issues of calendar which have
mystical/cabalistic overtones as well. Would anyone have any suggestions
for any of these?

 

Dan

 

Daniel J. Rettberg, Ph.D.

Rare Book and Manuscript Bibliographer

Klau Library

Hebrew Union College-Jewish Institute of Religion

3101 Clifton Avenue

Cincinnati, OH 45220-2488

 

drettberg at huc.edu

 

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From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On
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You also have the option of using LCSH:

 

655 -0 Recipes.

 

That's probably what I would do here.

 

Robert L. Maxwell
Head, Special Collections and Metadata Catalog Dept.
6728 Harold B. Lee Library
Brigham Young University
Provo, UT 84602
(801)422-5568

 

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Cookbooks / Medical formularies (rbgenr) vs. Recipes (aat)

The whole "receipt" issue in early modern materials is problematic, and
rbgenr has resolved it by not allowing use of either "receipts" or
"recipes," but in dividing between the cookery and medicinal receipts
(even though they don't often fall neatly into those categories.) 

So, okay, problematic, but workable; our manuscripts containing recipes
nearly always contain both kinds, so we end up applying paired genre
terms of "Cookbooks" and "Medical formularies." But now we need a genre
term for individual recipes that are contained within a manuscript
miscellany. Neither "cookbooks" nor "medical formularies" will do; both
indicate a book or collection of recipes rather than individual
instances of recipes within a different kind of book.

AAT has "Recipes," and we do use AAT for terms we need not contained in
the rbms controlled vocabularies, but I hesitate to do it in this case.
The two thesauri have different entirely approaches to the receipt
problem, and to pick and choose here seems to invite chaos. 

What would you do? 

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Head of Cataloging
Folger Shakespeare Library
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