[DCRM-L] Gramatically inseparable place and publisher infictitiousimprint

[Jane Stemp Wickenden]

I would do the same as Deborah, up to the repeat after "i.e." and adding (as
I'm sure you would as well) a transcription of the chronogram in a 500 note.

How well does the repeat 260 ## $a index after $c and "i.e."? I know how I
would have handled that in my former early printed books job - but that was
er, getting on for 11 years ago!

260 ## $a [Frankfurt-am-Main] : $b Pius Secularis excudit Francofurti, $c
[1706]
500 ## $a False imprint: actually printed in Amsterdam by Carel Allard, vide
Frederik Muller.
500 ## $a Date from chronogram, p.?; "<quote>".
700 1# $a Allard, Carel, $e printer
752 ## $a Netherlands $d Amsterdam

What an interesting imprint... 

No, I'm not really working - it is the middle of Sunday night over here!

Jane Wickenden


-----Original Message-----
From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On
Behalf Of Deborah J. Leslie
Sent: 15 November 2009 22:47
To: DCRM Revision Group List
Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Gramatically inseparable place and publisher
infictitiousimprint

I don't know if you'd call me an imaginary friend, Erin, but I'm certainly
not an imaginary colleague. (-; According to DCRM(B), if an imprint is
completely false, you transcribe it as it and then give the correction as a
whole in square brackets. See 4A4. It's complicated by the fact that your
date isn't fictitious, although obscured, and the place and name of
publication are grammatically inseparable. Here's my shot at following 4A4
and 4C3.
 
260 ?a [Frankfurt-am-Main] : ?b Pius Secularis excudit Francofurti, ?c
[1706] [i.e., ?a Amsterdam : ?b Carel Allard?, ?c 1706]. 

The subfields are all repeatable, so I believe the ability to tag place and
name of both ficitious and actual imprints, search indexes based on these
subfields will be accurate. 

And Erin, whatever are you doing working on a Sunday afternoon?

-----Original Message-----
From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On
Behalf Of Erin Blake
Sent: Sunday, 15 November, 2009 16:48
To: dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu
Subject: [DCRM-L] Gramatically inseparable place and publisher in
fictitiousimprint

While seeking examples for the DCRM(G) draft, a satirical print with the
false publication statement "Pius Secularis excudit Francofurti" came up in
the British Museum catalogue. According to Frederik Muller, it was probably
engraved and published by Carel Allard, in Amsterdam. So, I guess you'd
supply both the fictitious and the probable place of publication in square
brackets? That is:

[Frankfurt-am-Main, i.e. Amsterdam?] : Pius Secularis [i.e. Carel Allard?]
excudit Francofurti, [1706]

To make it even more interesting, it's dated with a chronogram!

It's so unusual that it really doesn't bear putting in DCRM(G) as an
example, but I couldn't resist sharing it with other people who might
appreciate the situation. (After all, that's what imaginary friends on the
internet are for, right?)

   EB.

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