[DCRM-L] FW: CATALOGING DISTRIBUTION SERVICE - PRINT PRODUCT UPDATE

Fri Jul 8 12:04:51 MDT 2011

Since there is a fundamental revision of SCF in process by the BSC, perhaps their edition could be made available free on the RBMS site rather than being delivered to LC.  Doesn't help in the interim, but a goal to aim for.

John Lancaster

On Jul 8, 2011, at 1:50 PM, Noble, Richard wrote:

> How does the online captivity of SCF accomplish the stated principle "Provide more FREE publications".  By bundling SCF into Cat DeskTop, with a plethora of resources in which many of potential users would have little interest, CDS has managed to limit access to a select group of library catalogers. That professional silo may be the whole market, but why contrive to unmarket it, so to speak? It makes no business sense, among the other sorts of sense that it doesn't make. Moreover, CDS have, in a sense, asserted a de facto total copyright in a work that is public domain in the USA.
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> Is there any chance that RBMS and ACRL could weigh in on this? I don't think it serves anything like the whole of RBMS's constituency.
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> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Fletcher, Jain <jfletchr at library.ucla.edu> wrote:
> Hi, everyone,
>    I don’t know if you have seen this yet (its off-putting “all caps” subject line might have actually made people ignore it, rather than pay attn), but this is a really interesting message. As I scanned down the list, most of the items made sense, because they are updated at various intervals and they are all available on Cat DeskTop, where the updates show instantaneously.  I was kind of worried that we’d see our DCRMs there, but I didn’t, so was relieved. On the other hand, I do see the Standard Citations there. Hmmmmmm. It definitely “fits the bill” of being updated often and therefore resolves the problem of the print version being out of kilter with the DeskTop version, but with the new edition in the offing, I wonder if BSC wants to think about this a little further and either advocate for continued printing or perhaps even for a new publisher.  This is just a thought.
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>    But I also do still wonder about the rest of our DCRMs. Not everyone who uses BSC’s cataloging guidelines has access to DeskTop and for DCRM(M), we have imagined that some of our music users might work for smaller institutions that cannot afford DeskTop subscriptions.  That’s why we’d really like to continue with the print option along with the DeskTop option (and besides, we want our teal cover!   ;-) The reason that I am thinking about this is because I am not sure that CDS is thoroughly aware that more DCRMs are coming their way. Perhaps they would have considered including them on this list if they had had them solidly on their radar. So, I am not thoroughly sure that we can be relieved that they are not included here…
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>    (The late SF Chronicle columnist, Herb Caen, used to give subheadings to his paragraphs; one of his common ones was “Sodden thought” [used in kind of a downer kind of way; it alludes to something akin to “raining on the parade”]. I could have used that for my subject line, but then you never would have understood its meaning and probably would have even less inclined to read it than with the current one. Anyway, I apologize for being the bearer of this “sodden thought”, but I thought this was worth bringing up…)                                     --Jain
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