[DCRM-L] Full vs abbreviated language in notes

[Gillis, Jane]

There is a difference with these two notes:

"Caption title" is used for monographs when the title is from the caption.  It is still used for serials with the note: "Caption title: ", when the caption title is different from the 245.  "Title from caption" is used for serials when the actual 245 is from the caption.  When it is not, you would use the same note as for monographs "Caption title: "  I think this comes about because with serials there are many different titles, and usually not a real title page.  RDA for serials (or continuing resources) still uses the notes: ; title from caption.  ; title from title page. ; title from masthead. , etc. after the 588 field: "Description based on: " followed after the semi-colon by "title from  "

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From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On Behalf Of Deborah J. Leslie
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 1:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Full vs abbreviated language in notes

Thanks, Jane, for this corrective. I have no issue with any of these
notes, and would still use them myself; they are perfectly
understandable and shouldn't need to be interpreted to readers. I can't
think of any recent examples where I instructed a cataloger to flesh out
notes, but here's one that comes to mind. 

OLD:
Caption title.

NEW:
Title is from the caption, p. [1]. 

OR less full but still better than the old way:
Title from caption, p. [1]  

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Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Full vs abbreviated language in notes

Deborah and others,

As a contrary view, full sentences are great as the default, but I don't
think all notes need a subject.  Also sometimes it is clearer not to
have a verb, but just a past participle.  Here are some examples of old
notes that I would continue to use:

Suspended Oct. 26, 1799; resumed Jan. 13, 1800.
Errors in numbering with many numbers repeated.
Extent of publication not known.
With added caption title at head of first page of each weekly report.
Below issue number and frequency note, "By a society of gentlemen."
Description based on: [Numb. 1 (March 25. 1689)]; title from title page.
Imprint from colophon.
Text in English and Spanish.
No volume designations, but continuous paging begins over again with
October issues.
Editor: Sylvester Pollet.
Editor: Rachel Levitsky (with Erica Kaufman, spring 2004- )
Editors: Thurlow Weed, 1830-<1840>, <1843-1855>, 1858-1863; George
Dawson, 1846-1856, 1858-<1863>, 1870-<1876>; Frederick W. Seward,
1854-<1863>; John Ten Eyck, 1854-<1863>; Philip Ten Eyck, <1858-1863>;
J.D. Parsons, <1858-1863>; George W. Demers, 1867-1870; Charles E.
Smith, 1870-1876.

Some notes require full sentences.  Others can  be full sentences or not
(e.g., subjects and articles wanting).  Still others are much better if
they are more succinct.  I think some notes would just be too wordy and
would lose the "punch" that these old notes have.  "Description based
on: " and "Latest issue consulted: " are also RDA notes.  

Jane

Jane Gillis
Rare Book Cataloger
Yale University Library
jane.gillis at yale.edu
phone: 203-432-2633
fax: 203-432-4047