[DCRM-L] DPC on manufacture elements - final(?)(!) rule edits, with one example change

[Fletcher, Jain]

Hi, While I think this change may not provide sufficient clarity on how to proceed and I worry about how it will be understood down the road, I can live with this idea and the suggested text Manon gives in 4A6.2.2. I would still like the last rule that I've been suggesting to be included as well, so if this version is agreed to, then it would become 4A6.2.3: In case of doubt...[etc.]

BTW, is it worth mentioning that there is a split infinitive in the first sentence of 4A6.2.1 that I'd also love to see changed (to: "also to be")? I can continue to bite the bullet on that one if no one else cares... 

PS: I've "formatted" the examples on this version so that it is more obvious where each start; I hope it continues to be clearer in succeeding responses, even for those who use "plain text" in their e-mail ...

Jain Fletcher
       Principal Cataloger & Head, Cataloging Section
Collection Management Division 
Library Special Collections

-----Original Message-----
From: Manon Theroux [mailto:manon.theroux at gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 1:35 PM
To: Fletcher, Jain; DCRM Revision Group List; bsc at rbms.info
Subject: Re: DPC on manufacture elements - final(?)(!) rule edits, with one example change

I continue to think that we should be able to resolve this in a simpler way. I'd much prefer to keep 4A6.2. as a two-part rule. That is the whole point of the "Generally ... However ..." structure.
Assuming we want to keep the examples that Jain has proposed, can we do this?:  -Manon


4A6. Elements relating to publication, distribution, etc., vs. elements relating to manufacture

Consider the wording, layout, and typography of the publication itself when determining the most appropriate place to transcribe information relating to the publication, distribution, etc., area. Keep in mind that statements relating to printing will sometimes be more appropriately transcribed as elements of publication, distribution, etc., and sometimes as elements of manufacture.  Consult the following instructions for guidance.

4A6.1. Statements relating to publication, distribution, etc., only

If the publication bears only a statement relating to publication, distribution, etc., or multiple such statements, transcribe the
statement(s) according to the instructions in 4B, 4C, and 4D.

	Geneuae : Sumptibus Petri Chouët, 1651
	
	Viennae : Impensis Joannis Pauli Kraus, bibliopolae Viennensis, 1768 

	New-York : Sold by D. Felt & Co. ; Boston : Published by Cha's Ellms, agent, [1835?]

4A6.2. Statements relating to manufacture only

4A6.2.1. If the publication bears only a statement relating to manufacture, or multiple such statements, generally assume the
manufacturer(s) to also be functioning as publisher(s), distributor(s), etc. Transcribe the statement(s) according to the instructions in 4B, 4C, and 4D. Consider the words "place of publication" and "publisher" in those instructions to refer equally to the place of manufacture and name of manufacturer in such cases.

	Moguntiae : In typographeio Ioannis Albini, anno 1602 

	Te Philadelphia : Gedrukt bij Hendrik Miller, in de Twede Straat, MDCCLXII [1762] 

	Albany : Printed by Websters and Skinners ; New-York : Stereotyped by G. Bruce, 1822

4A6.2.2. However, if the manufacturer is known or presumed not to be the publisher, distributor, etc., transcribe the manufacturer statement as such according to the instructions in 4E, 4F, and 4G. If any details relating to publication, distribution, etc., can be determined or reasonably surmised, supply them in square brackets.

	[Boston : New York & Erie Railroad Company, 1856] (Boston : Farwells & Forrest, steam job printers, 5 Lindall Street) 

	[Ontario? : s.n., 1907] (Edmonton : Jas. E. Richards, government printer) 

	[S.l. : s.n., 189-?] (Milano : Stamperia Artistica)
	(Comment: Informational booklet for a traveling event whose programming details indicate that the event was to take place in various European cities)




On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Fletcher, Jain <jfletchr at library.ucla.edu> wrote:
> Hello, everyone,
>
>    I am attaching what I now believe to be the final version of the 
> publisher/manufacturer rule changes, based on the last few suggestions 
> I received. As I've said before, the reason I am sending an attachment 
> is because it is the only way I can be sure that people will see the 
> formatting and the red font I've used to show new/edited text.  I have 
> only made one example change in the rules, the reason for which I 
> discuss under the last area, labeled "DISCUSSION".
>
>    I would like to put this out for a vote by no later than the end of 
> this week (the very latest timing: Friday, 10/12), so it would be nice 
> if those interested could take a look at the new example along with my 
> discussion, to let me know if it needs further tweaking.  (I hope 
> not!) Thanks so much for your attention, Jain
>
>
>
> Jain Fletcher
> Principal Cataloger & Head, Cataloging Section
>
> Collection Management Division
> Library Special Collections
> Young Research Library - UCLA Box 951575 Los Angeles, CA 90095-1575
>
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> f: (310) 206-1864
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