[DCRM-L] DPC for Area 4, manufacture elements

[Kate Moriarty]

Hi Jain,

Thanks for putting this together. Here are my thoughts on the two proposed
changes.

Proposed Change 1:
I agree with you that it's worth retaining rule 4A.6.2.2 as is so that
there are instructions on supplying publisher, etc. information when it can
be determined. But I like the idea of keeping the suggested new rule with
the other general instructions in 4A. What about this: Follow rule 4A6.2.2.
with a new rule, 4A6.2.3, that includes some of your wording.


4A6.2.3. If the manufacturer is known not to be the publisher, distributor,
etc., and some or all of the details about the publisher, distributor, etc.
are unknown, transcribe the manufacturer statement as such according to the
instructions in 4E, 4F, and 4G.

[S.l. : s.n., 1856] (Boston : Farwells & Forrest, steam job printers, 5
Lindall Street)


Proposed Change 2:
One of the examples under 4A6.2.1 has a date of 1907 so it appears that
this rule was not meant to be exclusively for hand-press material.
Additionally, changing it would make the "However" in 4A6.2.2 ambiguous:
does it refer to only hand-press publication without publisher,
distributor, etc., statements or to all material? I think it can stand as
it is.

-Kate

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Erin Blake <EBlake at folger.edu> wrote:

>  Just a quick note to say I do have thoughts about this, but am up
> against a deadline at the moment. Will weigh in later this week.****
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> *From:* dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] *On
> Behalf Of *Fletcher, Jain
> *Sent:* Friday, September 07, 2012 12:31 PM
> *To:* DCRM Revision Group List
> *Subject:* [DCRM-L] DPC for Area 4, manufacture elements****
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> Hello, everyone,****
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>    Attached you will find discussion of an issue that I brought up at the
> BSC June 22 meeting in Anaheim.  As I say at the beginning of it, it has 3
> parts: 1) existing or draft rule texts to aid in discussion (these will
> also sometimes have yellow highlights, so you will know those are not the
> actual proposed texts); 2) discussion and 3) at the very end, a summary of
> the actual proposed texts. These last will be obvious, because I have
> “simulated” a tracked-changes document by using red font for the proposed
> changes. ****
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>    The proposal goes so far as to suggest rule number changes at the end
> of Area 4 (with reasons given in the discussion portion), but I know that
> this is a bigger issue than most of us would like to touch, so I am very
> open to suggestion of other ways to approach the rule numbering in that
> section, without removing the added text in that area, which I think is
> crucial (and hope you agree).****
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>    I would also suggest that, despite my attempts to help the reading by
> including existing DCRM(B) text, people would benefit by looking at DCRM(B)
> and even glancing at AACR2 (when prompted in the discussion) while reading.
> ****
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>    I am interested in everyone’s comments about this issue, and hope that
> the DCRM editors will lend their experience with these rule issues to the
> discussion.****
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> --Jain****
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