[DCRM-L] OCLC's IR webinar (May 13)

Fri Aug 28 18:51:46 MDT 2015

Thanks, John; this is helpful.

To everyone: Should we explore expanding the use of 500 ‡5 and other non-local note fields for our local data?

From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On Behalf Of Chapman,John
Sent: Friday, 28 August 28 2015 14:31
To: DCRM Users' Group
Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] OCLC's IR webinar (May 13)

Deborah,

LBD isn’t in play in these examples. The result for "Old-time makers…” shows up in your search because the master bibliographic record (OCLC #951672) has a 561 with that phrase. Similarly, as you noted, “Plexus” (OCLC #25407462) is retrieved due to the phrase in the 500 of the master record. LBD isn’t taken into account for searches on www.worldcat.org<http://www.worldcat.org> (or FirstSearch).

LBD is taken into account when searching an institution’s view of WorldCat through WorldCat Discovery, as Francis pointed out earlier. So searches at http://delcat.worldcat.org will hit indexes that include LBD for U Delaware, but will not find LBD for any other library.

I hope this clarifies which systems make use of LBD for searching.

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From: <dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu<mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>> on behalf of "Deborah J. Leslie"
Reply-To: DCRM Users' Group
Date: Friday, August 28, 2015 at 1:41 PM
To: DCRM Users' Group
Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] OCLC's IR webinar (May 13)

Never mind; I was looking at the wrong library.

The LBD is visible, and searchable apparently, if not encoded in a 590. However, you have to go to each library's record to find it. For example, do the kw search "signed presentation copy."  This brings up 80 results:
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If I choose the first one, Old-time makers of medicine, I get this. Notice the phrase does not appear on the record.

The record with the phrase was found in the 8th library listed, second copy.
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It was presumably retrieved because the note was in 561:

561 __ |a NLM copy 2, author’s signed presentation inscription to Dr. Greene, dated Christmas 1911. |5 DNLM

Following the second title, Plexus, the note does appear on the master record: 500  Signed presentation inscription "For Elmer [Gertz] ..." in Miller's hand on front flyleaf. ǂ5 ICarbS

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Deborah J. Leslie | Folger Shakespeare Library | djleslie at folger.edu<mailto:djleslie at folger.edu> | 202.675-0369 | 201 East Capitol St., SE, Washington, DC 20003 | www. folger.edu

From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu<mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu> [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On Behalf Of Deborah J. Leslie
Sent: Friday, 28 August 2015 12:17
To: DCRM Users' Group
Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] OCLC's IR webinar (May 13)

What LBD? This is what I see when I follow the link:

Deborah J. Leslie | Folger Shakespeare Library | djleslie at folger.edu<mailto:djleslie at folger.edu> | 202.675-0369 | 201 East Capitol St., SE, Washington, DC 20003 | www. folger.edu

From:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu<mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu> [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On Behalf Of Pearson, Audrey
Sent: Wednesday, 26 August 2015 14:56
To: DCRM Users' Group
Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] OCLC's IR webinar (May 13)

Please forgive me for resurrecting this old email thread, but I took a look back on these messages today and would like to generate more discussion.

The deadline for deciding whether to delete our IRs or migrate them to LBD looms ever closer, and at Yale we have yet to come to a decision. In Jennifer’s email from May, she states that it is possible for others to view the LBD. My understanding is that LBD from other institutions will not be viewable in Record Manager when we are cataloging, but will be viewable regardless of institutional affiliation in WorldCat Local and WorldCat Discovery.

Are there others who are currently using WMS or who have transitioned to LBD who can chime in? What I’d really like are examples (perhaps screenshots) of records that show LBD from multiple institutions in the same display. Every example I’ve seen so far, numbering approximately two, has shown LBD of the same institution whose WorldCat Local was used to display the record.

On the other hand, are there institutions who have deleted their IRs without migrating to LBD? If so, has this had a noticeable effect on workflow, reference, user discovery, etc.?

Thanks in advance for any examples or information you can provide.

Audrey Pearson
Catalog/Metadata Librarian
Yale University Beinecke Rare Book & Manuscript Library
P.O. Box 208330
New Haven, CT 06520-8330
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The Beinecke Library’s building is closed for renovation until September 2016.  We have opened a temporary reading room in Sterling Memorial Library, but access to some collections may be limited during the renovation. For more information, visit our renovation website<http://beineckelibraryrenovation.yale.edu>.

From:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu<mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu> [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On Behalf Of Jennifer MacDonald
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:18 AM
To: Allison_Rich at brown.edu<mailto:Allison_Rich at brown.edu>; DCRM Users' Group
Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] OCLC's IR webinar (May 13)

Dear colleagues,

I have been silent on all of this, but I guess it's time to chime in. University of Delaware became the first "major" institution to adopt WorldShare Management Services, and we migrated last summer.

WMS (which goes by many derogatory nicknames here, like WMD) is the way OCLC takes over your ILS. Circulation, reserves, cataloging, acquisitions, everything.  Not to put too fine a point on it, hearing talk about going to check an institution's local catalog makes me cringe, because WE NO LONGER HAVE A LOCAL CATALOG. We have OCLC records with extra things dangling from them. Whenever I explain it to someone outside of our library, they ask if I'm looking for another job (I'm not). The library spent about 18 months working with OCLC on the system, then another 12 months when it became clear that they wouldn't be ready for the go live date, and there is still continual communication and activity between UD and OCLC.

When I search for a record in the metadata module of WMS, it takes me to the master record, the Local Bib Data (if there is one), and the Local Holdings Record (if there is one). Local notes go into the LBD (natch, but you never know with these things). Because I've been in denial for the past year, I haven't checked what our records look like on the other end, but I figured now was the time, and I have had a friend at a different institution take a look. It is, in fact, possible for others to see the LBD. When the holdings come up in WorldCat.org (I don't know about FirstSearch, I didn't check that yet), if you click on the holding library's name, the notes come up under the "Details" section.  This isn't a very exciting record (the book happened to be on my desk because one of the copies dropped out in the migration, which is a story for another day), but if you want to take a look, this is the record she checked: http://www.worldcat.org/title/entailed-hat-or-patty-cannons-times-a-romance/oclc/1875667&referer=brief_results<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.worldcat.org_title_entailed-2Dhat-2Dor-2Dpatty-2Dcannons-2Dtimes-2Da-2Dromance_oclc_1875667-26referer-3Dbrief-5Fresults&d=AwMDaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=6n5a8966Grm-eyvHPjKQAfrnrY1uREU0tmeF9Nuk8H8&m=hYML2mHXWihB2bKQdxLbG5EHi5KKYx4IxGL0HIGa7aE&s=l-XJS5D7wxR_okn3kUdh1h4a00G10nyu6w5f7mZWEVw&e=>

Believe me, I'm not a fan of WMS, but at least for now, I know people can see our local data. Or at least she could ...

Jennifer MacDonald

On 5/14/2015 5:31 PM, Allison Rich wrote:
Hi Karen:

Furthermore, the Harvard Library has 30 OCLC symbols in use; I asked in the 11am webinar if individual libraries would be able to view the others' LBD. The response was that we would only be able to view the symbol associated with the login.  Speaking personally, I can't imagine that the LBD would ever be more useful than Harvard's shared local catalog (or even the notes on our old catalog cards, for that matter).
Ah interesting. Then I heard that wrong. I apologize for making that claim then.
As that is the case then searching in HOLLIS will give you a far better idea than LBDs!!

I also found the statement that no end of life date has been determined for Connexion quite ominous.  More generally speaking, I found the responses were often very vague and didn't necessarily answer the question being asked in a meaningful way.
Very much agreed, Honor. The answers were very vague that way and most unsatisfying.

~Allison

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a book is probably man's best friend,

and inside of a dog,

it's too dark to read.

- Groucho Marx"

Allison Rich

Rare Materials Cataloguer

ESTC and NACO Coordinator

John Carter Brown Library

Providence, Rhode Island

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Jennifer MacDonald

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Metadata Services Department

University of Delaware Library

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