[DCRM-L] RDA revision proposal -- Sources of Information (RDA 2.2.2.2)

Fri Jul 22 09:39:12 MDT 2016

I can see why the working group had difficulty naming an order of preference, and so I don’t think an order of preference should be specified, but, for this reason, a note should be required naming the source of the title in these cases (where there is no title page). So I am in favor of option 2, with the additional sentence “Make a note on the source from which the title proper is taken.” (paralleling 2.17.2.3). I suppose it might be argued that 2.17.2.3 covers this, but I think it bears repeating in the early printed resources context.

Also was “(or a reproduction of it)” left out of option 2 on purpose or was it an oversight?

Bob

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Subject: [DCRM-L] RDA revision proposal -- Sources of Information (RDA 2.2.2.2)

Thank you to all who have contributed comments.

One of the proposals that the working group plans to share early next week concerns the exception for early printed resources in RDA 2.2.2.2<http://access.rdatoolkit.org/rdachp2_rda2-2839.html>, to choose the source of information when the resource lacks a title page etc. Here is the present RDA instruction:

If the resource lacks a title page, title sheet, or title card (or an image of it), use as the preferred source of information the first of the following sources that has a title:

a)      a cover or jacket issued with the resource (or an image of a cover or jacket)

b)    a caption (or an image of a caption)

c)    a masthead (or an image of a masthead)

d)    a colophon (or an image of a colophon).

Exception
Early printed resources. If an early printed resource (or a reproduction of it) lacks a title page, title sheet, or title card (or an image of it), use as the preferred source of information the first of the following sources that has a title:

a)    a colophon (or an image of a colophon).

b)    a cover or jacket issued with the resource (or an image of a cover or jacket)

c)    a caption (or an image of a caption)

If none of these sources has a title, use as the preferred source of information another source within the resource that has a title. Give preference to a source in which the information is formally presented.

As we consider the exception, keep in mind that recourse to an order of preference is applicable only when the resource a) lacks a title page etc., and b) has two or more sources containing title information (if only one source has a title, then the order of preference is moot -- we use that one source).

The working group has found it difficult to name an order of preference for the diverse variety of resources we encounter in the hand-press period. Here are some of the options:

Option 1
Exception
Early printed resources. If an early printed resource (or a reproduction of it) lacks a title page, title sheet, or title card (or an image of it), use as the preferred source of information the first of the following sources that has a title:

a)    a colophon (or an image of a colophon).

b)    a cover or jacket issued with the resource source within the preliminaries (or an image of a cover or jacket source within the preliminaries)

c)    a caption (or an image of a caption)

Option 2

Exception
Early printed resources. If the resource lacks a title page, title sheet, or title card (or an image of it) and the resource has two or more sources with title information, use as the preferred source of information the source in which the information is most formally presented.

Option 2a might add a statement in the spirit of “In incunables, this source is usually the colophon. In later material this is often the caption.” There are concerns that option 2 (or 2a) may be insufficiently prescriptive.

Option 3. Leave the exception unchanged

Option 4. Omit the exception.

No matter how the exception is formulated, this is an area where additional guidance is likely to be provided by external policy statements, such as those being developed by RBMS.

I am keen to hear suggestions from this list.

Francis

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Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] RDA revision proposals -- Early Printed Resources and Rare Printed Resources

Agreed with Will Evans that "rare printed resources" should replace "early printed resources". The latter, though fuzzy (what's "early'?) is proscriptive. "Rare" is a value judgment made at the institutional level, and might be defined as "whatever it is that we think should be cataloged as 'rare'", for the purpose of which an alternate set of practices for more precise and complete physical description are provided.

"Rare" may be even fuzzier than "early"--so much the better.

RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY
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On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Will Evans <evans at bostonathenaeum.org<mailto:evans at bostonathenaeum.org>> wrote:
Regarding Issue 3:

I’d would argue that  “early printed resources” could be struck from the language entirely and replaced by “rare printed resources.”  The following rules could also be applied to 21st century artists’ books, where these resources often lack title-pages and the artist acts the manufacturer, publisher, distributer, etc.

2.2.2.2 If an early printed resource (or a reproduction of it) lacks a title page, title sheet, or title card (or an image of it), use as the preferred source of information the first of the following sources that has a title

2.8.1.1 For early printed resources, distribution and manufacture statements relating to booksellers and printers may be treated as publication statements.

Best,
Will

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National Endowment for the Humanities
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Library of the Boston Athenaeum
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Subject: [DCRM-L] RDA revision proposals -- drafts for review

This spring, the RDA Steering Committee (RSC) formed a Rare Materials Working Group to assist the RSC in developing the treatment of rare materials in RDA (see: http://www.rda-rsc.org/workinggroups<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.rda-2Drsc.org_workinggroups&d=CwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=t7GDkvcZa922K6iya7a6MxgVxxw7OjL0m1rPBXkflk4&m=eSSLCsivBHMc2qFu1FOa_gfb13toq7sBDUEgDFR2U4I&s=Mb3DpwXcVJtF-u8VCPMkvWtAJa55H1zRb4aHFaFr5lk&e=>). One of the tasks assigned to the working group was a review of all RDA exceptions (etc.) for Early Printed Resources. To this end, the WG will submit a handful of RDA revision proposals for RSC review in the 2016 cycle. All proposals are due by August 1. The WG is very interested in comments from members of this list.

Three proposals ready for review are described below (and in the document here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AFybjUog0_vu34MgprzPGp2ktrIYq4Du6IQWlBolth8/edit<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1AFybjUog0-5Fvu34MgprzPGp2ktrIYq4Du6IQWlBolth8_edit&d=CwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=t7GDkvcZa922K6iya7a6MxgVxxw7OjL0m1rPBXkflk4&m=eSSLCsivBHMc2qFu1FOa_gfb13toq7sBDUEgDFR2U4I&s=WaOJqLexYAloE5Rx7zAaP8Q0UwbMNkHzOSptc5a5Ao0&e=>). Before August 1, the WG hopes to share two or three additional proposals (stay tuned).

Please don’t be shy about adding your suggestions, comments, or questions. To do so:

-          Use the comment feature in any of the Google docs linked herewith; or

-          Send your thoughts to this list, putting the proposal title in the subject line; or

-          Email me, at francis.lapka at yale.edu<mailto:francis.lapka at yale.edu>.

Thanks,

Francis

RSC/Rare WG/1 Early Printed Resources and Rare Printed Resources

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FMnuYGOCfFSOlL9NBnvDznu0saWXslf3okfoQayidA8/edit<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1FMnuYGOCfFSOlL9NBnvDznu0saWXslf3okfoQayidA8_edit&d=CwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=t7GDkvcZa922K6iya7a6MxgVxxw7OjL0m1rPBXkflk4&m=eSSLCsivBHMc2qFu1FOa_gfb13toq7sBDUEgDFR2U4I&s=o4CUHWhtE-JDH4XXcUfXGiaDzlaOKDo40HXJtUoHtfs&e=>

This proposal recommends three changes:

1.       Revise the chronological scope of the term “early printed resources” to accommodate regional differences for the concept of early.

2.      Add the category “rare printed resources,” to define a category of materials for which an agency may choose to provide a more detailed description of the resource as a physical object.

3.      Replace “early printed resources” with “rare printed resources” in RDA instructions where there is no justification for limiting application to early resources.

RSC/Rare WG/2 Revision to RDA 1.8.1 Numbers Expressed as Numerals or as Words

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gmds5e2GJq27l2QH02gtH1f0sKzvvmJM15nN2z2vSfY/edit<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1gmds5e2GJq27l2QH02gtH1f0sKzvvmJM15nN2z2vSfY_edit&d=CwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=t7GDkvcZa922K6iya7a6MxgVxxw7OjL0m1rPBXkflk4&m=eSSLCsivBHMc2qFu1FOa_gfb13toq7sBDUEgDFR2U4I&s=uTWNl65CPPLRqzyZa3aEtTB-pWiEGmU5qTpTr3_xLyA&e=>

This proposal revises the alternative for early printed resources within the general guidelines for numbers expressed as numerals or as words (1.8.1). The proposal recommends three changes:

1.       Add numbering within series and numbering within subseries to the list of elements for which numbers are transcribed in the form in which they appear on the source of information.

2.      Re-classify the alternative as an exception.

3.      Broaden the scope of the alternative/exception so that it applies to rare printed resources instead of early printed resources.

RSC/Rare WG/3 Revision to RDA 3.4.5 Extent of Text

(coming soon)

RSC/Rare WG/4 Revision to RDA 3.12 Book Format and related terms

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yzYfF2udcQuazLrdGXQkm4R03BgCENaNT50iTKHXQjo/edit<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1yzYfF2udcQuazLrdGXQkm4R03BgCENaNT50iTKHXQjo_edit&d=CwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=t7GDkvcZa922K6iya7a6MxgVxxw7OjL0m1rPBXkflk4&m=eSSLCsivBHMc2qFu1FOa_gfb13toq7sBDUEgDFR2U4I&s=37-uqKXUiaGmFsiqBCaIbLJvH3VnGMDbmuYQo5G18X4&e=>

This proposal revises RDA 3.12 Book Format in order to bring the instructions into greater alignment with contemporary definitions of the concept of format and to introduce other minor improvements.  The proposal recommends parallel changes to the RDA Glossary.

RSC/Rare WG/5 Revision to RDA 3.21.2.9 Note on Extent of Manifestation, Early Printed Resources

(coming soon)

RSC/Rare WG/6 Revision RDA 2.2.2.2 Sources of Information

(coming soon)

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