[DCRM-L] Odd signature pattern worth a note?

[Amy Robertson]

Thanks so much to you both for the very informative replies. I'm sorry that
your overlapping didn't save one or the other the work but it was most
interesting to see both explanations and examples. Thank you!

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Noble, Richard <richard_noble at brown.edu>
wrote:

> So I do--I read Deborah's response after sending mine. Oh, to be so
> predictable ...
>
> RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY
> BROWN UNIVERSITY  ::  PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912  ::  401-863-1187
> <Richard_Noble at Br <RICHARD_NOBLE at BROWN.EDU>own.edu>
>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Deborah J. Leslie <DJLeslie at folger.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Amy, this is a typical signing pattern for 19th-century 12mo's in 6's. As
>> you know, the gatherings are formed by the quiring of a bifolium of two
>> leaves within the four-leaf section. Only the first leaf of the gathering
>> and the first leaf of the insertion are signed: the first and third leaves
>> for a 12mo in half-sheet imposition; the first and fifth leaves (with the
>> four-leaf section inserted into the eight-leaf section) for full imposition
>> in 12's.
>>
>>
>>
>> When signing numerically instead of alphabetically, the first leaf would
>> usually be signed with a number, and the third (or fifth) leaf the number
>> with an asterisk. Here is a primitive rendering of how the leaves are
>> 'signed' and the value we accord them for reference citation:
>>
>>
>>
>> 'A1' =A1 || unsigned =A2 || 'A2' =A3  || unsigned =A4 || unsigned =A5 ||
>> unsigned =A6
>>
>> '1' =11  || unsigned =12  || '1*' = 13 || unsigned =14  || unsigned =15  ||
>> unsigned =16
>>
>>
>>
>> The signature statement would not reflect the actual signing pattern. For
>> example, 500 Signatures: A-T12. You *could* make a note, but that would
>> be going to a deeper level of detail than is usual in catalog records.
>>
>>
>>
>> Or you could be Richard Noble, who includes full collation statements in
>> his records. (-;
>>
>>
>>
>> Deborah J. Leslie, M.A., M.L.S. | Senior Cataloger, Folger Shakespeare
>> Library | djleslie at folger.edu | 202.675-0369 | 201 East Capitol St., SE,
>> Washington, DC 20003 | www. folger.edu | orcid.org/0000-0001-5848-5467
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] *On
>> Behalf Of *Amy Robertson
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 07 June 2016 12:18
>> *To:* dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu
>> *Subject:* [DCRM-L] Odd signature pattern worth a note?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello all --
>>
>> I have a book in hand with gatherings of 6 where A3 is marked as A2 and
>> A2 itself is blank. This pattern is followed throughout the book. It is
>> American from 1826. I have made a signatures statement in the record but am
>> wondering if I need to add a note. Any guidance is appreciated.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Amy
>>
>> Cataloging Services Unit
>>
>> American University
>>
>>
>>
>
>


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Amy
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