[DCRM-L] DCRM-L Digest, Vol 161, Issue 44

Tue Jul 30 07:40:22 MDT 2019

I checked with the chair of the ARLIS/NA Cataloging Advisory Committee, who
agreed with Bob Maxwell that the proposal is now in the hands of CC:DDA.
Amanda Ros posted yesterday morning on the rules list-serv inviting
comments; as Bob said, comments from the RBMS community should come from
the RBMS Liaison. We look forward to the CC:DA's decision.

Liz O'Keefe
Member, ARLIS/NA Cataloging Advisory Committee

On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 2:22 PM <dcrm-l-request at lib.byu.edu> wrote:

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>    1. Re: Examples of "Curator" in agent to item relationship?
>       (Robert Maxwell)
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> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 18:21:29 +0000
> From: Robert Maxwell <robert_maxwell at byu.edu>
> To: "DCRM Users' Group" <dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu>
> Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Examples of "Curator" in agent to item
>         relationship?
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> My name is on the proposal as chair of one of the contributing
> subcommittees, and I did contribute personally but it's left the
> subcommittees and right now it's with CC:DA and ARLIS/NA, so probably it
> would be best (at least from the CC:DA perspective) for comments such as
> these to be posted on the CC:DA list by the RBMS liaison to CC:DA. I'm not
> sure how ARLIS/NA is taking comments.
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>
> Robert L. Maxwell
> Ancient Languages and Special Collections Librarian
> 6728 Harold B. Lee Library
> Brigham Young University
> Provo, UT 84602
> (801)422-5568
>
> From: DCRM-L <dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu> On Behalf Of Lapka, Francis
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 12:02 PM
> To: DCRM Users' Group <dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu>
> Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Examples of "Curator" in agent to item relationship?
>
> Bob, I appreciation your clarifications.
>
> I welcome the idea of curator relationship to works, but I wonder if it
> would be better for RDA to simplify the curator relationships by
> acknowledging the two strongest use cases for resource description:
>
>
>   1.  A curator responsible for deciding that an item should be acquired
> for a collection, as noted by Erin below. Obviously this is an Item
> relationship.
>   2.  An exhibition curator, who creates an exhibition work (or event),
> with a definition as described in your proposal. This a Work relationship.
>
> I think the curator relationship at the Item level should omit mention of
> exhibitions. Items in an exhibition can and should be related to an agent
> through the Work, i.e.: an exhibition curator creates an exhibition Work
> which in turn includes an Item.
>
> Francis
>
>
> From: DCRM-L <dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu<mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>>
> On Behalf Of Robert Maxwell
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:15 PM
> To: DCRM Users' Group <dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu<mailto:dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu>>
> Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Examples of "Curator" in agent to item relationship?
>
>
> Clarifying my last sentence: the word "item" in this case means the
> collection as a whole, not an individual "item" in the collection. In the
> FRBR/LRM/RDA framework a collection exists at all the WEMI levels so it is
> appropriate to think of the collection as a whole as an "item", even though
> there is only one item (the collection), one manifestation (the same
> collection), one expression (the same collection), and one work (the same
> collection).
>
>
>
> Bob
>
>
> Robert L. Maxwell
> Ancient Languages and Special Collections Cataloger
> 6728 Harold B. Lee Library
> Brigham Young University
> Provo, UT 84602
> (801)422-5568
>
> "We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine ourselves
> to the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow, 1842.
> ________________________________
> From: DCRM-L <dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu<mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>>
> on behalf of Robert Maxwell <robert_maxwell at byu.edu<mailto:
> robert_maxwell at byu.edu>>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 12:10 PM
> To: DCRM Users' Group
> Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Examples of "Curator" in agent to item relationship?
>
>
> I was going to note the proposal. The revision proposal is for the
> creation of a new relationship element at the work level to allow a
> relationship between (for example) a person who is curator of an exhibition
> and a work produced by that exhibition (e.g. an exhibition catalog). (The
> current RDA relationship element is at the item level and so would not be
> appropriate to use to link an exhibition curator with the exhibition
> catalog.)
>
>
>
> As to the specific question, I don't have a record to point you to, but I
> would think that if a catalog record were created for a collection--e.g. at
> BYU we have science fiction writer Orson Scott Card's papers and there is a
> record in the catalog for that collection--the curator of the collection
> could appropriately be included in the record with the relationship
> "curator" and this would be at the item level.
>
>
>
> Bob
>
>
> Robert L. Maxwell
> Ancient Languages and Special Collections Cataloger
> 6728 Harold B. Lee Library
> Brigham Young University
> Provo, UT 84602
> (801)422-5568
>
> "We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine ourselves
> to the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow, 1842.
> ________________________________
> From: DCRM-L <dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu<mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>>
> on behalf of Lapka, Francis <francis.lapka at yale.edu<mailto:
> francis.lapka at yale.edu>>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 12:02 PM
> To: DCRM Users' Group
> Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Examples of "Curator" in agent to item relationship?
>
> Of related interest is an RDA revision proposal drafted by ARLIS/NA and
> the CC:DA 3R Task Force. See attachment.
>
> Francis
>
>
> Francis Lapka
> Senior Catalogue Librarian
> Department of Rare Books and Manuscripts
> Yale Center for British Art
> 203-432-9672  *  francis.lapka at yale.edu<mailto:francis.lapka at yale.edu>
>
>
>
> From: DCRM-L <dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu<mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>>
> On Behalf Of Erin Blake
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 1:02 PM
> To: DCRM Users' Group <dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu<mailto:dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu>>
> Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Examples of "Curator" in agent to item relationship?
>
> I guess "curator" could be an item-specific relationship if you go far
> enough down the rabbit hole: we have a field in our Acquisitions module
> where we record the curator responsible for deciding a collection item
> should be acquired (an issue because it's often mistaken for the curator
> whose budget it came from, but it's the intellectual contribution we're
> documenting; the financial contribution is recorded elsewhere). That field
> could, in theory, be part of the MARC record in the OPAC.
>
> Erin.
>
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> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 12:23 PM Liz OKeefe <lokeefe411 at gmail.com<mailto:
> lokeefe411 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> During a recent conversation with colleagues from the ARLIS/NA Cataloging
> Advisory Committee, someone asked for examples of bibliographic records in
> which "curator" was used in an agent to item relationship. No one was able
> to come up offhand with examples, and it's difficult, if not impossible, to
> search OPACs for records where "curator" is used in this way. Could someone
> on DCRM-L help us out? Thanks.
>
> Liz O'Keefe
> Member, ARLIS/NA Cataloging Advisory Committee
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